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The Overlord January 20 2012 04:45 AM

TV Movies
 
Did you think it would be a good idea if CBS made Star Trek TV movies?

Broccoli January 20 2012 04:50 AM

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No.

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AviTrek January 20 2012 05:12 AM

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Personally I'd love to see a tv movie/miniseries set in the Prime universe after Nemesis. But why would CBS do it? No one makes TV movies/miniseries any more since they have trouble making money. Combine that with the financial problems inherent in space operas and you have an almost certain recipe for a money losing venture.

Jetfire January 20 2012 05:12 AM

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YES! OMG!! VOY MOVIE!!! :D

:p

[NOTE] I am only half serious...I'd rather CBS work on a re-boot of TNG or a totally original series. ;)

The Overlord January 20 2012 05:24 AM

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AviTrek wrote: (Post 5639350)
Personally I'd love to see a tv movie/miniseries set in the Prime universe after Nemesis. But why would CBS do it? No one makes TV movies/miniseries any more since they have trouble making money. Combine that with the financial problems inherent in space operas and you have an almost certain recipe for a money losing venture.

Too be fair, Sci Fi did make some TV movies of Battlestar Galactica.

F. King Daniel January 20 2012 10:32 AM

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I think CBS see TV/DVD movies as cheap, and that they would diminish Trek.

Besides, they couldn't afford them - starship sets are expensive, and even the higher-budget cinema Trek movies were forced to recycle sets from TNG and Voyager. If TNG's engine room, transporter room, ten-forward, corridors etc. being used in STVI annoyed you, just think what nuTrek sets standing in for the Enterprise-E, Defiant, NX-01 or Voyager'll do to your blood pressure!

Relayer1 January 20 2012 01:02 PM

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What most fans of the old shows seem to want is what happened after TNG, DS9 and Voyager. I (and probably many others) had an idea for a TV movie / miniseries format which although very fannish, could've been workable-

Teaser - NX01 Enterprise has a brief encounter that has a knock on effect over a hundred years later. Fast forward to post Nemesis - an issue from the past affects Starfleet, in the course of its resolution involving some personnel / cast from ALL of the old shows, including some flashbacks to TOS or movie era Trek done with old clips and new CGI (as in Trials and Tribble-ations) as Kirks crew had had a similar encounter, since highly classified.

This sort of approach has worked nicely in the novels on multiple occasions and would easily accommodate fans of each show.

Unfortunately, all the sets have gone and it would now be hugely expensive and would probably only generate poor or average viewing figures...

Cookies and Cake January 20 2012 01:59 PM

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It's beyond me how a TV movie could generate gross returns in the range of a few hundred million dollars, which is the sort of return the franchise generated with the most recent theatrical film.

While there is possible upside to making a TV movie, on the other hand I don't see a way to insure against the probable downside. All scenarios would occur in the context of the next theatrical film.

Only one scenario, which is that both the hypothetical TV movie and Star Trek XII are successful, is pure upside for the franchise. If the TV movie is successful, while Star Trek XII is not, then true, the TV movie would cut the losses from the theatrical film, but this scenario can occur only in the unlikely event that the theatrical film is unsuccessful. Otherwise, the TV movie is not successful, and one must wonder, why make it at all?

Making a TV movie just adds to the risk, and yeah, there's several hundred million dollars at stake (certainly gross, and conceivably even net), in the worldwide box office of Star Trek XII.

Admiral_Young January 20 2012 03:07 PM

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TV movies based on the "Sherlock" type format would work fine I think if these focused on character and plot like "Sherlock" does. I don't think this would ever happen though.

Mage January 20 2012 04:01 PM

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The problem is, you're going to have to create a whole new cast for this, and in the format of one or two tv-movies, you won't really get the change to develop characters as much as you could. For this you'd have to go Sherlock-format, and make 6 movies a season, for several seasons. This is more a British approach to tv then American, where the network would probably then want to see a tv-series concept of 40-45 minutes an episode, and 20-26 episodes a season.

The only way you could pull of one or two movies (like they did with Battlestar Galactica) is to use establised characters. And I don't think ANYONE involved with any of the previous Trek series will want to come back for that, unless the paycheck was good enough. I know that sounds cynical, but people, acting is a job and these people want to get payed. Getting the TNG cast back together (for example) would cost to much, an investment that CBS probably wouldn't make.

Temis the Vorta January 20 2012 09:55 PM

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Yes, it would be a good idea for me. But CBS wouldn't think it was a good idea. Sadly, they're the ones in charge of the decision, not me.

Notice how TV movies and miniseries barely exist on network TV anymore? They don't make sense economically - doing all the work of casting, hiring production people, creating sets, selling the idea in to the network, and then not being able to amortize the startup expense with an ongoing series.

Why go through all that for a gig that's going to end quickly, when you could go through all that and have an ongoing series that might run 7 or 8 years? Who doesn't want job security?

Then factor in the priceyness/limited audience of space opera as a genre. A Star Trek series on CBS is a non-starter, and one-off movies would be even moreso.

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The only way you could pull of one or two movies (like they did with Battlestar Galactica) is to use establised characters. And I don't think ANYONE involved with any of the previous Trek series will want to come back for that, unless the paycheck was good enough.
The TV characters wouldn't be enough of a draw, and the movie actors would be prohibitively expensive. BSG began as a back-door pilot miniseries. So if you mean Star Trek "movies" that are actually a way of launching an ongoing series, that's slightly more likely, but not much. You still have the problem that CBS wouldn't air it at all, because it's not what interests their audience.

CaptainMatt January 22 2012 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Jetfire wrote: (Post 5639356)
YES! OMG!! VOY MOVIE!!! :D

:p

[NOTE] I am only half serious...I'd rather CBS work on a re-boot of TNG or a totally original series. ;)



You had me and then you lost me.

Mysterion January 22 2012 09:28 PM

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The Overlord wrote: (Post 5639164)
Did you think it would be a good idea if CBS made Star Trek TV movies?

Yes, depending on what direction they take with them and how much the network would be willing to spend to make them.

CaptainMatt January 23 2012 12:50 AM

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Mage said

The only way you could pull of one or two movies (like they did with Battlestar Galactica) is to use establised characters. And I don't think ANYONE involved with any of the previous Trek series will want to come back for that, unless the paycheck was good enough. I know that sounds cynical, but people, acting is a job and these people want to get payed. Getting the TNG cast back together (for example) would cost to much, an investment that CBS probably wouldn't make.[/QUOTE]


This might very well be the single best reason why there will not likely be a VOYager movie, TV or otherwise. Sad to admit it but there you have it.

Temis the Vorta January 23 2012 09:35 PM

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The only way you could pull of one or two movies (like they did with Battlestar Galactica) is to use establised characters.
I don't see why that would be true at all. Star Trek is the known brand name to use as the main draw, and unless the show is animated, they can't make use of the well-known names of Kirk and Spock, so they may as well just invent new characters.

It's possible that characters from the other series could be recast (most of the actors being simply too old by now to build a new series around) but other than the TOS characters and Data, they really aren't iconic in their own right, as a separate thing from the actors who played them. I could see Alan Tudyk as Data. I really can't think of another non-TOS character who could be recast and still be a draw.


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