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Jetfire November 4 2011 07:01 PM

Grimm (NBC) Season 1 Discussion *Spoilers!*
The pilot thread is here;

No point in doing one for each episode at this point. ;)

Grimm Season 1 Episode 2 “Bears Will Be Bears” Description Tonight 9PM on NBC!


A HOME INVASION REVEALS A FAMILY'S BARBARIC HISTORY - KATE BURTON ("GREY'S ANATOMY") GUEST STARS - A case of breaking and entering introduces Nick (David Giuntoli) and Hank (Russell Hornsby) to a mysterious family whose cultural background blurs the line of right and wrong. Meanwhile, Nick tasks Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell) with safeguarding Aunt Marie (guest star Kate Burton). Bitsie Tulloch, Sasha Roiz and Reggie Lee also star.


I enjoyed the pilot and will be looking forward to tonight. :bolian:

Professor Zoom November 4 2011 07:12 PM

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I liked the pilot. Especially the introduction of the Wolf Side Kick guy. I think this could be a very fun show. I'm in, for now.

Temis the Vorta November 4 2011 07:14 PM

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The previews make me hope this show will add more personality and humor. That would offset the deadening effect of the MOTW approach.

Jetfire November 5 2011 01:01 AM

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Ugh. My TV isn't working so I am missing it right now. :( Will catch up online later or sometime Saturday. :sigh:

Kitty Worrier November 5 2011 06:33 AM

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I am definitely liking this show. It was pretty cool to see Voodoo Donuts get a shout out. That place rocks!

js November 5 2011 05:17 PM

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I don't think the second ep was as good as the first (Currie Graham, a terrific actor who does menace really well, was really wasted in that minor role), but I'm really just watching the show for Sasha Roiz, so I'm sticking with it as of now.

I do think the Blutbad (or however it's spelled) is the best character and clearly the writers like writing for the guy so I expect he'll stick around. Along with kickass Aunt Marie who I expect we'll see again in flashbacks or dreams since she's far more interesting (sadly) than the lead guy. He's really bland.

Anyone else think the fiancee is up to something? They keep doing these weird extra-long shots of her pondering as if she knows more than she says. Don't like her.

RJDemonicus November 5 2011 05:48 PM

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I'm going to have a hard time finding the time to watch this, but I did like the pilot. We could use a good monster-of-the-week show, although this one will probably end up becoming arc-based just like Supernatural and just about everything else.

davejames November 5 2011 05:51 PM

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Ugh, only watched the first half of last night's episode, but it was even more generic and predictable than the first-- with a mystery that wasn't even remotely mysterious!

The family with all the weird tribal artifacts that we meet in the first 5 minutes? Yup, they're the family of bears from the fairy tale. And they kidnapped the boyfriend. End of mystery.

Seriously, that's it?!? It's like these writers aren't even trying. :wtf:

timothy November 5 2011 06:01 PM

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I enjoyed this weeks episode it kinda reminded me of the three bears story......

give it time the show will get better.

Temis the Vorta November 5 2011 08:44 PM

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Hmm. So far, this show really isn't adding up to much. Silas Michael Weir is the only reason to keep watching, he's a hoot (well, that went too far!) :rommie: Also, they showed admirable restraint not naming the girlfriend Goldie Locke. :p

The idea that Mama Bear is encouraging her cub to commit homicide just to maintain some traditions that the family can apparently survive just fine without, is too weak of a premise for a good episode. They need to ratchet up the what's-at-stake here and really start to flesh out why the fairytale characters hang onto habits that place them at odds with society and potentially get them killed. So far, Weir's pilates-and-veganism lifestyle is the only sensible one.

Ratings: down 14%, which is a modest drop for a second episode, especially for an sf/f genre show. But the stories need to become more compelling if they're going to keep the ratings from falling into the danger zone.

Jetfire November 5 2011 11:10 PM

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14% drop isn't too bad given all the factors involved.

Just finished the 2nd was pretty good...they do need to pick up the pace a bit now that the aunt is gone. Silas Weir Mitchell is funny and it ads a good dynamic as his unofficial partner.

stj November 6 2011 01:39 AM

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The hero not strictly speaking being a human being is what throws me off. You think he'd have noticed!:wtf: On a deep level I can't suspend disbelief to accept the lead because he's not appropriate to the premise. Can't watch this, stuck with Fringe, which is taking not very good to new levels of mediocrity. Thank God there's Sanctuary on the next hour, with people who'll do anything to try to entertain me.

startrekwatcher November 6 2011 02:33 AM

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RJDiogenes wrote: (Post 5329802)
We could use a good monster-of-the-week show, although this one will probably end up becoming arc-based just like Supernatural and just about everything else.

I've gone on record stating that I'm not inherently opposed to episodic tv--some of my favorite shows have been based purely on that format however over the last decade it has become abundantly clear that the current crop of writers in television really can't be as creative in coming up with fresh unpredictable episodic stories.

They inevitably fall back on old chestnuts that almost everyone in the audience has seen if not once multiple times and to better effect before. That's one of the main reasons I simply don't care for cop/legal/hospital dramas--there isn't anything new to offer up. Same holds true for sff shows like Fringe, Grimm, Haven, Enterprise or Supernatural when they do standalones--they are predictable, formulaic mediocre drivel nine times out of ten recycling something done better before.

So while I'm not opposed to episodic storytelling it has been my experience that writers in recent years tend to be more creative and think outside of the box when adopting arc based storytelling and when every episode focuses on the arc threads(i.e. The Vampire Diaries, Ringer, Revenge, Once Upon a Time, The Secret Circle--not coincidentally the best shows on tv right now)and not just every so often or just in the periphery like Fringe or Supernatural did--two shows I had watched at one time but dropped due to a total lack of disinterest in the material and its execution.

DeadmeatDiggory November 6 2011 03:43 AM

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Not a bad show so far. And its nice to see the PTB's were able to get at least one of the Brandon Routh clones out before the factory burnt to the ground. :evil:

sojourner November 6 2011 04:49 AM

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stj wrote: (Post 5330589)
The hero not strictly speaking being a human being is what throws me off. You think he'd have noticed!:wtf:

What makes you think Grimm isn't human??

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