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Captain Craig July 29 2011 04:17 AM

Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
Cowboys & Aliens opens tomorrow, July29 and stars:
Harrison Ford
Daniel Craig
Olivia Wilde
Sam Rockwell

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1873. Arizona Territory. A stranger with no memory of his past stumbles into the hard desert town of Absolution. The only hint to his history is a mysterious shackle that encircles one wrist. What he discovers is that the people of Absolution don't welcome strangers, and nobody makes a move on its streets unless ordered to do so by the iron-fisted Colonel Dolarhyde. It's a town that lives in fear.

But Absolution is about to experience fear it can scarcely comprehend as the desolate city is attacked by marauders from the sky. Screaming down with breathtaking velocity and blinding lights to abduct the helpless one by one, these monsters challenge everything the residents have ever known.
RottenTomatoes grade is: xxx
Yahoo! Movies grade is: xxx
MetaCritic's grade is: xxx

CorporalClegg July 29 2011 06:25 AM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
Not to distract the conversation too far from the film, but I'm curious as to where this is supposed to take place. And let me preface that, yes, I know it's fiction. :p

I don't know much about the comic, but the Wiki page says SC, Arizona. Some of the film's info pages say Arizona and some say New Mexico.

Historically, the NM territory which consisted of NM, AZ, and parts of UT and CO was divided on a north/south or UN/CON axis during the war. But after the war, the territories were divided into pretty much the present day states which puts Silver City was back in New Mexico. The film takes place a decade after the war. And, as far as I know, there is no Silver City AZ--at least not one with any significance.

I was just wondering if anyone knew as I'm a bit of a NM historian--not to suggest this has anything to do with history. ;)

SG-17 July 29 2011 07:34 AM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
That was fun. It was really fun. I was smiling the entire way through it. An A from me.

IndyJones July 29 2011 09:38 AM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
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CorporalClegg wrote: (Post 5129711)
Not to distract the conversation too far from the film, but I'm curious as to where this is supposed to take place. And let me preface that, yes, I know it's fiction. :p

I don't know much about the comic, but the Wiki page says SC, Arizona. Some of the film's info pages say Arizona and some say New Mexico.

Historically, the NM territory which consisted of NM, AZ, and parts of UT and CO was divided on a north/south or UN/CON axis during the war. But after the war, the territories were divided into pretty much the present day states which puts Silver City was back in New Mexico. The film takes place a decade after the war. And, as far as I know, there is no Silver City AZ--at least not one with any significance.

I was just wondering if anyone knew as I'm a bit of a NM historian--not to suggest this has anything to do with history. ;)

After a quick browse of the Wiki page for the comic, the story seems almost entirely different from the movie. And while I don't know if they made it clear that it took place in New Mexico or Arizona (the wiki says Arizona, though I thought New Mexico...), I do remember that it took place in Absolution and not Silver City. And neither New Mexico nor Arizona seem to have an Absolution.

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SG-17 wrote: (Post 5129788)
That was fun. It was really fun. I was smiling the entire way through it. An A from me.

Agreed.

It had Cowboys, and it had Aliens. And it was nice to see Indiana Solo back in action.

Not a great film, but I had a lot of fun.

Procutus July 29 2011 04:57 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
Hoping to see this over the weekend, and glad that you guys enjoyed it; always good to hear positive reviews from fellow BBSers.

Now, the thing that I want to know is whether Olivia Wilde appears naked or not.


:drool:

Agent Richard07 July 29 2011 04:59 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
^ Don't know, but she looks nice.

http://www.cyberspace5.net/agentrich...viawilde15.jpg

Procutus July 29 2011 05:15 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
^


Thanks, 07!


:techman:

davejames July 29 2011 05:52 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
Debating whether to see this or Captain America again.

I want it to be fun and kickass, but there's an awful lot of critics describing it as being pretty dull and generic...

CorporalClegg July 29 2011 08:40 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
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Procutus wrote: (Post 5130596)
Now, the thing that I want to know is whether Olivia Wilde appears naked or not.
:drool:

This.

And once again, nice av Proc. Even in misery Ally is win.

JarodRussell July 29 2011 10:49 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
Ten bucks the sequel to Cowboys & Aliens will be released sooner than Abramstrek 2. :devil:

Harvey July 29 2011 11:20 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
You think they'll be a sequel to this, given the weak reviews and word of mouth so far? Are there more comics than the ones this film adapted?

JarodRussell July 29 2011 11:27 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
Haha, most reviews criticize the script. Amazing. Apparently, what was good enough for Star Trek or Iron Man (can ignore plot holes it as long as it is exciting) isn't good enough here.

davejames July 29 2011 11:50 PM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
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JarodRussell wrote: (Post 5131359)
Haha, most reviews criticize the script. Amazing. Apparently, what was good enough for Star Trek or Iron Man (can ignore plot holes it as long as it is exciting) isn't good enough here.

Well often if a movie is fun or stylish or charming enough (as those two were), it's a lot easier to overlook the story problems.

If a movie like Cowboys and Aliens is completely lacking in those areas, you're only really left with the story to entertain you. And it better be damn good.

Admiral2 July 30 2011 01:13 AM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
B

-Nowhere near as awesome as "Battle: LA." I know others will disagree. That's just my take.

-Olivia Wilde...SCHWINNNNNGG! (My usual reaction to seeing Olivia Wilde on a widescreen.)

-It's always interesting to actually see Clancy Brown act, as opposed to just listening to a voice-over. That's how closely I associate him with Lex Luthor.

-Daniel Craig was okay. Harrison Ford was better-than-okay. Everybody else was okay-but-not-blowing-my-skirt-up, so I'm forced to return to...

-Olivia Wilde...SCHWINNNNGG!!

-The aliens' "second hands" kept reminding me of something I read in a prose book ages ago, where the chief aliens were small simians with a third hand for precision work.

-It was actually kinda cool the way the alien ship blended into the stone bluffs.

-It was actually uncool the way the thing used conventional rockets for take off. Why not do something UFO-glowy instead?

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Now, the thing that I want to know is whether Olivia Wilde appears naked or not.
You only see her from the back and all the fun parts are blocked, but yes, she's nekkid in one scene.

CaptainCanada July 30 2011 01:35 AM

Re: Cowboys & Aliens: Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD **SPOILERS**
 
I'd rate it about a B. Competent action story, but it lacks the great characterization necessary to go to the next level.

In particular, Daniel Craig's character is really underwritten. The script doesn't do a very good job of putting us inside his head. He's great in a fight, though. Also, Daniel Craig doesn't have much luck with the ladies for an action star - his Bond averages a measly one shag per movie, and here not one but both of his love interests die on him, having achieved nothing more than first base with the latter.

Harrison Ford did better; this is one of his more memorable parts in a while. He had the most affecting scene in the movie, the death of Adam Beach's character. But the resolution with his blood son just rings false; Percy was a feckless idiot at the start of the movie (though fun to watch Daniel Craig beat up and maim), and there's no story space indicating that's changed.

Olivia Wilde being an alien makes her casting a bit less odd, because early on I was thinking that she doesn't fit very well into the period compared to everyone else. She was deliberately impassive for the most part, but I liked that Ella was her own character and arguably was the real hero in the end, rather than just a love interest.

Oh hai, Faux Aang!

I was surprised at first when it looked like they had killed the dog, but then he turned up.

And last but not least, Clancy Brown as a good guy! A preacher, even. That's not something you see every day.


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