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Mike Have-Not February 6 2011 12:41 AM

I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I think it is my favorite episode of the series.

I really liked T'Pol's character and acting in the story-telling scenes that frame the episiode, also.

The way she left Trip and Archer hanging, thinking she'd been "pulling a fast one" on them.

Very funny!

How do Enterprise fans feel about this episode?

Bishop76 February 6 2011 12:49 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I think it's pretty awful in general. It was clearly made on-the-cheap and the writing was pretty bad. I think if you're going to stick Vulcans on earth in the 50s, you need to ramp up the comedy a bit more, otherwise we're just watching another episode where the "crew" (in this case the Vulcans) need to find some way off a primitive planet without letting the natives know who they are. There were funny moments, but not a lot. There was a heartfelt moment or two as well, but ultimately the episode just felt like a waste of time. Particularly because it wasn't about any of the characters in the show.

I did like the ending though, UNTIL T'Pol pulled out the handbag. I would have much rather it been left up in the air as to whether or not she was screwing with them.

teacake February 6 2011 12:52 AM

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I love Carbon Creek. Mestral is a fantastic character and I think we need a "Eugenics Wars" style novel about his life on earth and through history. The acting is excellent, the sets too.. I still crack up at the Moe joke. One of the best of Enterprise.

I am Surak February 6 2011 05:10 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
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Bishop76 wrote: (Post 4715441)
I did like the ending though, UNTIL T'Pol pulled out the handbag. I would have much rather it been left up in the air as to whether or not she was screwing with them.

So you finally watched it.

Bishop76 February 6 2011 05:55 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I had seen it before and I haven't watched it in probably 2 or 3 years now - I didn't like it then, I don't like it now - the only part that I thought was good was the prologue where we see the "big 3" of Enterprise having some fun together and the first part of the epilogue where Trip and Archer are left wondering if T'Pol was full of shit or not. I would have rather they left the audience wondering the same thing. Would have been kind of fun.

Hathaway Brown February 6 2011 12:43 PM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
Not a bad episode, it seemed to suit its purpose as a light relief style episode. There have been far far worse "serious" episodes in other Trek series.

JiNX-01 February 6 2011 08:56 PM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
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teacake wrote: (Post 4715447)
I love Carbon Creek. Mestral is a fantastic character and I think we need a "Eugenics Wars" style novel about his life on earth and through history. The acting is excellent, the sets too.. I still crack up at the Moe joke. One of the best of Enterprise.

There are few things I like about CC, but generally speaking, it's around the middle of my least favorite episodes.

Mestral ("I Love Lucy is on tonight") was my favorite. And I'm sure a lot of people will spit out their teeth at the idea, but I think they could have had some fun with the coda by having Mestral arrive on the West Coast and the first person he befriends is Gene Roddenberry.

Pemmer Harge February 6 2011 08:59 PM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
It was the first episode of Enterprise I really liked. It was fun.

toughlittleship February 6 2011 09:09 PM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
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teacake wrote: (Post 4715447)
I love Carbon Creek. Mestral is a fantastic character and I think we need a Eugenics Wars; style novel about his life on earth and through history..

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mestral_(short_story)

teacake February 7 2011 05:37 AM

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toughlittleship wrote: (Post 4717260)
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teacake wrote: (Post 4715447)
I love Carbon Creek. Mestral is a fantastic character and I think we need a Eugenics Wars; style novel about his life on earth and through history..

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mestral_(short_story)

Not a short story, an EPIC story like Cox's Eugenics Wars novels! He can weave Mestral into his already established Eugenics Wars characters too.

But I want a novel of the E2 crew as well by Cox, 100 years on the alternate Enterprise. Actually just give me a series set on the ship with Lorian as the Captain. Drag in Jolene to play Old T'Pol and start it with the second generation.. that way if you do use some actors from ENT they can already be older.

Those are two great untold stories of ENT.

Shatnertage February 7 2011 05:42 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I like "Carbon Creek" a lot. It was way better than "Carpenter Street," which I often confuse it with because of the moderately-similar names.

Smellincoffee February 7 2011 09:20 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I liked it, but I tend to enjoy offbeat episodes like that.

BlobVanDam February 7 2011 09:53 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I liked it a lot. It was clearly a cheaper filler episode, so I took it for what it was, but was pleasantly surprised.
It reminded me a bit of 11:59 from VOY, which I hated. But I liked Carbon Creek because of the culture shock aspect that always makes these types of things fun, such as Carpenter St, TVH, Year Of Hell etc. The fact it wasn't technically one of the cast didn't bother me as much as it did in 11:59. I thought the story was nice, and the characters worked well.
How a Vulcan managed to survive his life without being detected through any illness, accidental ear slips, Pon Farr sex-rage etc is beyond me.

One of the surprisingly good episodes of S2 for me.

Amasov February 8 2011 02:49 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
I LOVED Carbon Creek. Very cool, charming little episode that told a nice story.

"I Love Lucy" is on tonight!

Mike Have-Not February 8 2011 03:19 AM

Re: I really Like "Carbon Creek"
 
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Bishop76 wrote: (Post 4715441)
I did like the ending though, UNTIL T'Pol pulled out the handbag. I would have much rather it been left up in the air as to whether or not she was screwing with them.

The thing is, left "in the air" about the vailidity of her story, I would've assumed she was BS'ing (I am a skeptic by nature, apparently), and I'm not sure how I would've felt about that :-p


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