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Jetfire August 18 2010 01:47 AM

Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Superman has change some over the years but for the most part has stayed the same.

Does Superman need a make-over for the next film?

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...supermants.jpg
Traditional.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...manreturns.jpg
Superman Returns.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s..._supermanx.jpg
Superman X(Legion Of Superheroes cartoon).

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...h_theblur9.jpg
Smallville Season 9.

What do you think???

(I made it multiple choice...you only need to choose 1. :bolian: )

[edit] I forgot to put this in...why I started this...

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php and http://www.supermanhomepage.com/imag...pinereboot.jpg

Temis the Vorta August 18 2010 03:12 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Supes doesn't need a makeover. He needs a filmmaker who is willing to make a movie about who he is: a naive and sincere alien immigrant who fights for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Filmmakers, if this scares you, stay away. No one wants to see a movie about Genericman.

Maybe they should just wait to see how Marvel handles Captain America and just copy that. My hunch is that Marvel knows how to stay true to a superhero characters' core.

Aragorn August 18 2010 03:15 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Yeah, they can follow the Marvel plan. Matthew Bomer can play Superman in the movie, he is vocally disapproving of some of the movie's faults, and they recast him with Jim Caviezel for Justice League. :p

Admiral Buzzkill August 18 2010 03:37 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
There's no real difference between the "traditional" and the Superman Returns version.

iguana_tonante August 18 2010 03:45 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
^Yeah, I was going to point that out.

UncleRogi August 18 2010 03:53 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Somewhere, somewhen, some Earth-some one is sreaming "BLASPHEMY!! HERESY!!!"

And I'm in the corner applauding.

Jetfire August 18 2010 04:13 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Quote:

Dennis wrote: (Post 4324703)
There's no real difference between the "traditional" and the Superman Returns version.

Quote:

iguana_tonante wrote: (Post 4324717)
^Yeah, I was going to point that out.

The red is maroon...fruit roll-up cape...the \S/...S's in the boot and belt. I know what you mean though.

Mr. Laser Beam August 18 2010 04:15 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Superman is an absolute. An icon. He should never change. That would kill the entire reason for the character to exist.

Dream August 18 2010 04:58 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Remember the last time they tried to give Superman a makeover in the comics? We got this...

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4...permanblue.jpg

:thumbdown::barf:

Silvercrest August 18 2010 05:16 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Quote:

Jetfire wrote: (Post 4324768)
Quote:

Dennis wrote: (Post 4324703)
There's no real difference between the "traditional" and the Superman Returns version.

Quote:

iguana_tonante wrote: (Post 4324717)
^Yeah, I was going to point that out.

The red is maroon...fruit roll-up cape...the \S/...S's in the boot and belt. I know what you mean though.

The bright red trunks and bright red boots look worse every time I see them. Superman Returns had the right idea there as far as I'm concerned.

I still prefer a bright red flowing cape, though. Guess I'm a little mixed up. :alienblush:

Trent Roman August 18 2010 07:49 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
I like the Tim Burton version. Although I'd get rid of the wires around the head; not sure what purpose those serve.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Sketcher August 18 2010 08:03 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
This isn't a bad reinterpretation of the suit.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/imag...pinereboot.jpg

Gaith August 18 2010 08:05 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
His costume is fine (though I'd be interested in seeing at least tests for an all-leather variant of the same basic design, like the X-Men movie suits with color), but he really could use a hologram to make his face and voice appear substantially different from Clark's; it's getting harder and harder to buy anyone falling for the glasses trick.

The Lensman August 18 2010 08:36 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
Quote:

Gaith wrote: (Post 4325037)
His costume is fine (though I'd be interested in seeing at least tests for an all-leather variant of the same basic design, like the X-Men movie suits with color), but he really could use a hologram to make his face and voice appear substantially different from Clark's; it's getting harder and harder to buy anyone falling for the glasses trick.


The "glasses trick". No, John Byrne had it right.....as Superman doesn't wear a mask, it would never occur to the general public that he even has a "secret identity". That when he's not around, (when he's Clark), that he's either in some other part of the country or world.

The ONLY part that kicks that in the nuts is the amount of time Superman spends around the Daily Planet crew. If he didn't, if he just moved amongst humans as Clark and never hung out with them as Superman, it'd totally work.

And really, any REAL updating of the Superman mythos must dump the Daily Planet anyway. Newspapers were information hubs in those days, with access to information at a faster rate than the average joe. Thus when a crisis, crime or disaster broke out, he could quickly find out and respond. That was the ENTIRE reason for becoming a newspaper man.

Now, in the 21st century, thanks to the web, we can find out about things just as fast as all the news agencies....and really, who gives a crap about the dying dinosaurs that are newspapers these days anyway? So a modern Superman myth is going to have to figure out a way to work around that element. Superman is supposed to be the "Man of Tomorrow" after all.

As for the pictures of Superman....Alex Ross's Superman hasn't not looked like shit in about a decade. Mainly because with each passing painting, the S gets larger and larger and larger. The S does not cover the bulk of Supermans torso. Ross needs to go back and look the classic Superman comics to see how big the S should generally be.

As for the costume.....really, he's friggin Superman. Every published Super Hero owes his/her existence to him. His costume is THE Super Hero costume. Considering his power, his costume, more than any other heroes (except Captain Marvel) is purely ornamental. When you have that much power you can pretty much wear whatever you want. It's not like anybody's gonna say anything to your face.

Admiral_Young August 18 2010 09:01 AM

Re: Does Superman Need A Make-Over?
 
I voted no...although I really enjoyed the Wizard Magazine Ultimate DC article from way back in 02 or 03 they did where they updated the costume and essentially carried on the story from Smallville.


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