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Count Zero June 5 2010 12:27 PM

5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Still a few hours till the episode airs (at 18:40 this time), but the thread is already here.

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Jamee999 June 5 2010 07:27 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Well that was...fillery. And not particularly good filler.

ETA: Why have there been unexplained cricket chirps all season?

Pat June 5 2010 07:32 PM

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Absolutely loved it; best D11 episode thus far. I had a tear in the corner of my eye for the last few minutes! Tony Curran was excellent.

WillsBabe June 5 2010 07:34 PM

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Tony Curran, you made me blub. Shame on you! What an odd, but excellent episode. Loved it. :techman:

Jax June 5 2010 07:34 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Hard to call because while I felt the monster of the week story was weak, the chracter driven moments were typical Curtis and were fantastic. The last 10 minutes in particular was just simply superb writing/directing and acting.

In the end I'll prob say Average but a strong Average due to the character driven moments.

Lonemagpie June 5 2010 07:36 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Wow.

The kids will be bored, the monster was silly (if well-rendered) and it felt a bit too message-heavy in places (especially Bill Nighy's speech about Van Gogh's place in the history of art, and with the post-show ad for an advice line) but....

Easily the best episode of the season, and best "celebrity historical" of Nu Who. Mainly because of a) Curtis' script having a mix of a good grasp of the subjects and some lines that play differently depending on whether the viewer is following the arc, and b) Tony Curran as Van Gogh, who was bloody amazing (couldn't we keep him? Or at least cast him in a "proper" biopic about Vincent?)

I suspect it won't win any season polls, but fuck it, no, this was *quality* even when it was being just Dr Who with a monster.

10/10

Haggis and tatties June 5 2010 07:37 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
A great character piece and certainly different, loved Smith running about with the mirror contraption, its was so reminiscent of Troughtons Who.

Serial thread killer June 5 2010 07:40 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Thought it was a good filler episode.
I thought Tony Curran was brilliant has Van Gogh he made me feel really sad for Van Gogh.

WillsBabe June 5 2010 07:40 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Every time I see Matt Smith's Doctor, I see something different in him. I can't pin down what it was about his performance this week, but I loved him even more.

Wereghost June 5 2010 07:41 PM

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Excellent. This year's Father's Day, a wonderful human-interest tale. It was also visually sumptuous and eminently quotable. Richard Curtis, you had me at "contrafibulator".:lol::lol::lol:

John Clark June 5 2010 07:42 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
I have to agree with regards to Tony Curran. I've only seen him in a couple of things before and he was great in this:)

HappyDayRiot June 5 2010 07:48 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
I reckon there's going to be a few people who didn't like that at all.

I thought it was really good. The monster was damn good CGI, real step above the Lazarus one. Loved the Doctor's contraption and Curran was wonderful.

This season's filler eps have all been superb. I'm almost persuaded the next one will be good as well.

'I'll be back before you can say ooh where's he got to?' 'NOT QUITE THAT FAST!!' 'Still very fast though.'

George Bailey June 5 2010 07:48 PM

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Quote:

WillsBabe wrote: (Post 4140461)
Tony Curran, you made me blub. Shame on you! What an odd, but excellent episode. Loved it. :techman:

Yeah, it was a very touching end, and nice to see depression tackled in a family show. I went from being unimpressed to thinking it was brilliant by the end.

Mary Bailey June 5 2010 07:49 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Most people have said what I'd say: I kept looking for the connection to the Great Story Arc - and in the end when it wasn't there I didn't miss it. The Beastie was mediocre, and the solution of it being more scared than malicious was a tad preachy. But the portrayal of Van Gogh and his 'madness' was stunning. And as for the ending... THAT'S what I'd do if I had a time machine.

ITElf June 5 2010 07:49 PM

Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!
 
Good episode, and Curran was great. Yes, the monster was a bit crappy, but they had to have some reason to meet Vincent, didn't they? :D

Anyway - Curtis' skill is with people, so that's where the good stuff was. And it certainly went all... Curtis-y near the end. Funny, that. Hehehe. The syrup was laid on a little thick for my liking at that point, but I did like how they actually took him into the future - how many times have we wished that would happen with a guest star? Glad they did it.

So - on the whole, I enjoyed it. And Bill Nighy was great. But then again, he always is.

:D


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