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jefferiestubes8 April 29 2010 03:35 PM

Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
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plan to build a 2 leg Robot, Madio-Kun, or humanoid in order to be fully operational for space travel and especially to be operated on the surface of the Moon by 2015.
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This $10.5 Million project seem very ambitious indeed, and while the SOHLA recognize the difficulty of the task they are however very confident in achieving it within 5 years…
Japan plans to send humanoid to the moon by 2015


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CorporalClegg April 29 2010 04:29 PM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
It'll probably be a Mecha. :lol:

Crazy Eddie April 29 2010 06:13 PM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
Coincidentally, I happened to get a look at their prototype when they were testing it a few months ago.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2...inodaibaby.jpg

Tee hee.

Snaploud April 30 2010 10:06 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
I assume it would be some sort of radio-controlled device (ala the mars rover rather than some sort of AI).

SamuraiBlue April 30 2010 10:49 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
Well on the moon maybe since the time lag is only one second but on Mars with a time lag of four minutes+ making on time maneuver impossible so a task batch will be sent and the robot will follow through accordingly with some flexibility for the computer to follow through autonomously.
For example robot is given instructions to build a house with step by step instructions using nuts and bolts. The robot can not lose any pieces in completing the instructions but lets say he dropped one. At this point the AI sub-routine kicks in and starts to search the missing piece then the next routine kicks in for the robot to navigate to the found piece and then another routine kicks in to retrieve the piece and lastly another routine kicks in to return to the place of origin.
There will be other autonomous instructions such as recharging batteries and or even the most mundane routine like standing back up after falling down.

Bisz April 30 2010 04:09 PM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
I work for Toyota, I have already welcomed out Japanese overlords, and so should you.

publiusr April 30 2010 06:46 PM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
A lifeless robot striding over a lifeless moonscape--uncanny valley indeed.

jefferiestubes8 May 27 2010 11:15 PM

$2.2 billion robot-built Moon base by the year 2020.
 
ther 2015 humanoid robots are part of a larger plan.

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the droids will begin construction of an unmanned base near the south pole of the moon that will be powered by solar panels,
$2.2 billion robot-built Moon base by the year 2020.



related:
Russia plans its own moon base (inhabited) around 2027
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...ssia-moon.html

Brent May 30 2010 06:27 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
I'm tellin ya, we are making a mistake to not make a manned mission to the moon

CuttingEdge100 May 31 2010 08:52 PM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
Why don't they just send a person to the moon in 2015? They have the knowledge to build a powerful rocket, the guidance technology to do this is 40 years old or so.

CorporalClegg June 1 2010 01:26 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
Didn't you hear? Th Japanese have a thing for robots.

CuttingEdge100 June 1 2010 03:52 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
CorporalClegg,

Yeah, but it's excessive

MeanJoePhaser June 1 2010 04:23 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
I bet they think evil Gamilons are there.

EyalM June 1 2010 11:24 AM

Re: Japan taking humanoid robots to moon by 2015
 
Why humanoids? Surely there are better designs for operating in such an environment?

jefferiestubes8 February 1 2013 06:01 PM

Oceanus Procellarum area cave
 
I wonder which country will be seriously considering this new location for a base in or nearby?

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Back in 2009, the Japanese Space Agency JAXA announced moon hole deep enough to contain a small human base. Now, the Indian Space Research Organization has discovered a "giant underground chamber" near the Moon's equator, in the Oceanus Procellarum area.
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The huge cave— discovered by the Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft—is more than one mile long (1.7 kilometers) and 393 feet wide (120 meters). By comparison, the vertical hole that Jaxa discovered was only 213 feet (65 meters across) and 289 feet deep (88 meters).
Obviously both locations must be explored with robots and LIDAR before any construction begins.
LiDAR like this.
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LiDAR technology offers one of the most accurate, expedient and cost-effective ways to capture elevation information. LiDAR data is directly processed to produce detailed bare earth models in a variety of formats
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LiDAR point clouds can be used to derive a wide variety of geospatial deliverables including:

Intensity images
Breaklines
Digital Terrian Models
Digital Elevation Models
Digital Surface Models
3-D models
They could generate a 3-D model of the interior cave in a 1/10th scale with 3-D printers.
With a rover with LIDAR & digital cameras they could have this 3-D data and color photos of the entire interior of this cave.

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Downward-looking LIDAR instruments fitted to aircraft and satellites are used for surveying and mapping – a recent example being the NASA Experimental Advanced Research Lidar.[3] In addition LIDAR has been identified by NASA as a key technology for enabling autonomous precision safe landing of future robotic and crewed lunar landing vehicles.
From Wikipedia.
This is how robots would land on the moon anyway.
The LIDAR could be put onto rover vehicles for closeup mapping of insid a cave chamber.

Other benefits of using a large cave:
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future human base. The settlement would be protected from radiation, micro-meteor impacts, dust and extreme temperature changes by the lava structure:
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Lava provides a natural environmental control with a nearly constant temperature of minus 20 degrees Celsius (-4 degrees Fahrenheit), unlike that of the lunar surface showing extreme variation, maximum of 130 degrees Celsius (266 degrees Fahrenheit) to a minimum of minus 180 degrees Celsius (-292 degrees Fahrenheit) in its diurnal (day-night) cycle.

source
http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews...nid-79567.html
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A cave surely sounds like the way to go but it would take many months or years to build it out to be habitable with life support pods.


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