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label April 9 2010 05:25 PM

Poll : Which Reality will the show end on?
 
Spoilers through "Happily Ever After"

So, after the last episode it's become very clear that the 2 realities are indeed connected as many have speculated. Characters in the Alt. reality are starting to remember on island events/people so the obvious thing we can draw from this is that whether the alt. reality was caused by the nuke or some other event yet to happen, the Alt. reality was born out of the island reality.

The question really is which reality will exist when the smoke clears (pun intended :) ) at the end of the show?

My personal opinion now is that the people on island will work to keep Smokey from being able to leave up to and including sinking the island somehow which will protect the Alt. reality which will be the "final" reality when it's all said and done. The only twist is that the Alt. Reality people will get back their full memories.

Plomeek Broth April 9 2010 05:38 PM

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Unfortunately I believe it will be the ALT.

label April 9 2010 06:05 PM

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Plomeek Broth wrote: (Post 3984066)
Unfortunately I believe it will be the ALT.

I used to dread this possibility as well.....felt too much like a giant reset that rendered the last 5 years moot. However, after this latest episode if the everyone get's their full memories in the Alternate Reality I think that softens the blow for me a bit. My preference would have been that the Island reality wins out and the Alt. Reality goes away, but if that can't happen, then the next best thing would be for the Alt. Reality to contain the island persona's.

Seven of Five April 9 2010 07:58 PM

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I've thought all season that the side-timeline was an epilogue after the coming fight. It's turned out to be an actual, concurrant alternate reality, but I still think that it will be the one the Losties end up in.

I agree though that Desmond and Charlie remembering their life on the island is a big can of worms open. Des seemed pretty determined to show the 815ers what he had seen at the end of the episode, so I can see the other Losties gaining their memories.

I hope that the side-Losties don't decide to reverse the actions of the nuke going off. I'd find that as silly as them wanting to set it off in the first place! :lol: The new timeline is much better for everybody, and I can envision the island-Losties fighting to protect it or some such.

LitmusDragon April 9 2010 08:31 PM

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I like the "bubble" theory someone posed- that the island was protected from the timeline change by it's weird properties, but is still within the same universe that we are seeing in the flash-sideways. In other words, that they are both already part of the same reality somehow. That doesn't really fit any of the options, so I selected "other".

DevilEyes April 10 2010 01:30 AM

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label wrote: (Post 3984144)
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Plomeek Broth wrote: (Post 3984066)
Unfortunately I believe it will be the ALT.

I used to dread this possibility as well.....felt too much like a giant reset that rendered the last 5 years moot. However, after this latest episode if the everyone get's their full memories in the Alternate Reality I think that softens the blow for me a bit. My preference would have been that the Island reality wins out and the Alt. Reality goes away, but if that can't happen, then the next best thing would be for the Alt. Reality to contain the island persona's.

That would be the real reset button, rendering the entire season 6 moot. You can guess I'm not a fan of that option.

Hober Mallow April 10 2010 01:48 AM

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Seven Of Five wrote: (Post 3984447)
I've thought all season that the side-timeline was an epilogue after the coming fight. It's turned out to be an actual, concurrant alternate reality, but I still think that it will be the one the Losties end up in.

It's by no means certain that the sideways timeline in concurrent with the, er... prime timeline. Remember, Desmond's consciousness has traveled through time as well. I'd bet money that the sideways stuff will in fact be the epilogue.

label April 10 2010 02:25 AM

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DevilEyes wrote: (Post 3985326)
That would be the real reset button, rendering the entire season 6 moot. You can guess I'm not a fan of that option.

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of the Sideways reality being the final one either, but if the events of Season 6 are played out so that they cause/protect the Sideways reality then the events of Season 6 won't be moot, they'll be to protect what they have in the sideways reality which for the most part seems like they have better lives (aside from Sayid) and I'm just now realizing this is the longest sentence I've probably ever written so I'm going stop typing no

The Trekster April 10 2010 02:32 AM

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I feel like if it has to favor one reality, it has to be the island reality. Because if what their most recent explanation (with the cork) states is true, I just don't think you could never have the island at all unless you got rid of hell somehow. Does that make sense to anyone but me?

Although the most satisfying to me would be for them to keep them both. They could merge into one hybrid timeline, but I just can't see them executing that well...

DevilEyes April 10 2010 02:51 AM

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label wrote: (Post 3985491)
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DevilEyes wrote: (Post 3985326)
That would be the real reset button, rendering the entire season 6 moot. You can guess I'm not a fan of that option.

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of the Sideways reality being the final one either, but if the events of Season 6 are played out so that they cause/protect the Sideways reality then the events of Season 6 won't be moot, they'll be to protect what they have in the sideways reality which for the most part seems like they have better lives (aside from Sayid) and I'm just now realizing this is the longest sentence I've probably ever written so I'm going stop typing no

And I think you've completely misunderstood me. I don't want the Sideways reality to be wiped out, because that would render the season 6 a moot point - why were we watching those flashsideways for, anyway, if that reality just disappears and has no effect on anything?

label April 10 2010 04:06 AM

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DevilEyes wrote: (Post 3985542)
And I think you've completely misunderstood me. I don't want the Sideways reality to be wiped out, because that would render the season 6 a moot point - why were we watching those flashsideways for, anyway, if that reality just disappears and has no effect on anything?

Apologies....I did misunderstand you. Yes, I agree that the Sideways reality must be directly connected to the events of the Island and must continue beyond the Island's demise (assuming the Island at the bottom of the ocean represents a finale resting place for the island).

auntiehill April 10 2010 07:23 AM

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I think the flash-sideways will continue, but they will have knowledge of the Island time-line. That's how alt-Charlie knows he's supposed to die and alt-Desmond discovers Penny and yet still remembers the sideways-verse when he comes back to the Island-verse. But he only remembers when he comes back because he's the Constant,due to the explosion at the Island-verse Swan. And Eloise is a Constant, like him, for some reason--perhaps because she is connected to her son the way Desmond is linked to Penny.



^Reading that again, I don't know whether to laugh or go get an aspirin. :lol:

Warp Coil April 10 2010 05:28 PM

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I wouldn't want the alternate reality to win out because, in my opinion, the alternate versions of the characters are "different" from the island versions of these characters that we've been following for the past 6 seasons. The Jack in the alternate universe is NOT the same character as the Jack in the island universe. Their backstories are all different. They haven't led the same lives. Their circumstances are not the same. We've spent so much time learning about who our island characters were before the island - so much time was invested in their flashbacks. I feel more connected to the island versions of these characters. I don't feel the same way about the alternate universe. To me it's a mistake that shouldn't have happened that needs to be corrected. A convergence of the timelines would be one thing, but I don't want the island versions of these characters to disappear, die, or whatever.

Hober Mallow April 10 2010 09:25 PM

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Warp Coil wrote: (Post 3986550)
The Jack in the alternate universe is NOT the same character as the Jack in the island universe.

Not according to the producers. Lindelof and Cuse have said unambiguously that the flash sideways are not an alternate timeline in any sense, and the characters are the same characters. Beyond that, we can still only speculate. I'm still clinging to the theory that the flash-sideways are going to happen as a result of whatever happens in the finale, so we're actually seeing flash forwards.

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To me it's a mistake that shouldn't have happened that needs to be corrected. A convergence of the timelines would be one thing, but I don't want the island versions of these characters to disappear, die, or whatever.
My feeling is that everyone's going to die and no one's going to have a happy ending on the island, and the only happy endings are going to be in the flash sideways.

label April 10 2010 10:33 PM

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Hober Mallow wrote: (Post 3987077)
My feeling is that everyone's going to die and no one's going to have a happy ending on the island, and the only happy endings are going to be in the flash sideways.

I pretty much believe the same thing, but I suspect someone may have to take Jacob's place which might cost one of them their happy sideways-ending....I mean, doesn't there have to be some cost involved in achieving victory?


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