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Captain Craig January 8 2010 07:05 PM

DOLLHOUSE 2x11-Getting Closer Review,Commentary,Grade,SPOILERS
 
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DOLLHOUSE "Getting Closer" Season 2 Episode 11 - Topher races to reconstruct Echo's original personality and memories when Adelle realizes they are the key to adverting a devastating future. Meanwhile, Echo and Bennett's shared past and the identity of the Rossum's Corpration's mysterious leader are revealed in the all-new "Getting Closer" episode of DOLLHOUSE airing Friday, Jan. 8 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.

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Cast:
Eliza Dushku as Echo
Tahmoh Penikett as Paul Ballard
Olivia Williams as Adelle DeWitt
Harry Lennix as Boyd Langton
Fran Kranz as Topher Brink
Enver Gjokaj as Victor
Dichen Lachman as Sierra

Guest Cast:
Amy Acker as Dr. Claire Saunders
Summer Glau as Bennett Halverson
Miracle Laurie as Madeline Costley/November
Reed Diamond as Laurence Dominic
Philip Casnoff as Clive Ambrose
Liza Lapira as Ivy
Rick Otto as Gabe
Jay Malone as Young Man

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Welcome back to the Dollhouse my fellow BBS'ers. The countdown is on to the final three episodes of the series. We are back to regular one hour installments so combined with getting back-to-back episodes in Dec and the layoff we are no doubt going to feel shorted. Alas, in three weeks we'll be shorted for good.:(



Till then lets enjoy these last few episodes. The episodes in December were strong and Joss&Co. appear to once again be giving us a good send off, even if it is 3yrs too early.

ManOnTheWave January 8 2010 07:41 PM

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I'm glad to have the show back. I'm slightly annoyed that only one episode will air tonight (Those double airings spoiled me). And I'm sorry the show is on its way out the door. Looking forward to both Amy Acker's and Summer Glau's appearances.

Captain Craig January 9 2010 01:26 AM

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Just a reminder in case its overlooked in the OP, Dollhouse has been pushed back an hour from its original time slot so allow for that on your DVR or planning.

Trent Roman January 9 2010 03:16 AM

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^ That explains why I came here expecting to find the forum a'chattering only to be met with silence.

Fair number of surprises in this one, including a big reveal. I guessed it about a minute beforehand, but it was still pretty awesome, and casts much of the series in a very different light. Combined with edge-of-your-seat pacing and some fun character moments, it's good to see Dollhouse is going out with a bang.

(EDIT: And in case someone is wondering, my local affiliate played it at 8:00)

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

FreezeC77 January 9 2010 03:41 AM

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So is Epitaph One being retconned as some kind of extremely elaborate prediction by the Rossum mainframe "attic consciousness"?

or not... since that scene with Boyd and Dr. Saunders was straight out of epitaph one.

and didn't see that one coming...:wtf:

DarthPipes January 9 2010 04:03 AM

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BOYD!!!

WTF? I thought what happened to Bennett was shocking but I didn't see the Boyd reveal coming.

Excellent episode. A lot of fun with all the characters coming back and with the gang being all here. The idea that Echo was a terrorist of sorts it fascinating. Some funny lines and Topher's reaction at the end was great.

BTW...can you get much better than Amy Acker and Summer Glau sharing a scene?

Joe Washington January 9 2010 04:06 AM

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OH. MY. GOD.
OH. MY. GOD.
OH. MY. GOD.

This season of Dollhouse is EPIC!

The moment Saunders was alone with Benett, I had a feeling she was going to kill her. But the twist involving Boyd I did not see coming. So Boyd and Saunders are working together. But the question is, working towards what?

Benett's death seems to be one of many tragedies that will trigger Topher's descent into maddness.

I'll miss Topher and Benett's geek love and my heart breaked for him when he told his assistant not to be like him.

I'm sad about Echo and Ballard and the removal of their connection.

I can't wait to see what happens next.

And I think the series finale will follow-up on Epitaph One. No alternate future. No cheap retcon.

David cgc January 9 2010 04:07 AM

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FreezeC77 wrote: (Post 3736579)
So is Epitaph One being retconned as some kind of extremely elaborate prediction by the Rossum mainframe "attic consciousness"?

or not... since that scene with Boyd and Dr. Saunders was straight out of epitaph one.

and didn't see that one coming...:wtf:

Maybe a little bit of both. If Epitaph One took place in the Attic, it's possible some of the flashbacks were real, and some were... less so (like the one with Ballard and Actualized!Echo going out on an engagement, which was a little different and creepy when we saw it in-context). I noticed they stuck Dominic right back in the Attic after it seemed like they were going to have to completely lose the "Three buttons are back/I saw a guy being a pretty princess" scene, meaning it still might happen.

We really are getting the cliffs-notes version of the show. I like the frantic pacing of it, but having had a taste of how things were going to go initially, it seems like it would've been more interesting and epic if it the series had the opportunity to take the more gradual approach suggested by Epitaph One.

BenRoethig January 9 2010 04:09 AM

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DarthPipes wrote: (Post 3736632)
BOYD!!!

WTF? I thought what happened to Bennett was shocking but I didn't see the Boyd reveal coming.

Excellent episode. A lot of fun with all the characters coming back and with the gang being all here. The idea that Echo was a terrorist of sorts it fascinating. Some funny lines and Topher's reaction at the end was great.

BTW...can you get much better than Amy Acker and Summer Glau sharing a scene?

Nope.

MeanJoePhaser January 9 2010 04:11 AM

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Echo Terrorist...Eco Terrorist...*groan* (Okay, she wasn't committing eco terrorism, so it's not that bad.)

Everybody is a Cylon!

StarshipDefiant January 9 2010 04:12 AM

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Joss said the flashacks and the future as seen in Epitaph One is what happens, but the memories might not be exact. I love this episode and in other ways...I wonder if I do, because of the death of Bennett and who did it...bah. I figured Boyd out when he touched her and the flashbacks started up again. The episode was great but in other ways a character was ruined for me...hmmp...still good, though...yeah.

BTW? Where are you getting the pictures, I saw a couple in there I haven't seen...

DarthPipes January 9 2010 04:33 AM

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Joe Washington wrote: (Post 3736636)
OH. MY. GOD.
OH. MY. GOD.
OH. MY. GOD.

This season of Dollhouse is EPIC!

The moment Saunders was alone with Benett, I had a feeling she was going to kill her. But the twist involving Boyd I did not see coming. So Boyd and Saunders are working together. But the question is, working towards what?

Benett's death seems to be one of many tragedies that will trigger Topher's descent into maddness.

I'll miss Topher and Benett's geek love and my heart breaked for him when he told his assistant not to be like him.

I'm sad about Echo and Ballard and the removal of their connection.

I can't wait to see what happens next.

And I think the series finale will follow-up on Epitaph One. No alternate future. No cheap retcon.

Yeah, it really felt epic. Even though they have to rush through it.

It's probably for the best that Ballard doesn't love Echo anymore. It never exactly brought out the best in him.

Topher completely rocked that post-Bennett scenes. Loved that bit too with the Doll that had just arrived last Tuesday.

Mr Light January 9 2010 04:41 AM

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Wow. Really, really, excellent episode. With two absolutely amazing plot twists. I loudly shouted "NO WAY!!!" when her head went poof. And while I suspected the mysterious villain was going to be a pre-existing character, I never in a million years suspected it would be THAT person! Well done! It's funny how it's the third to last episode yet it was the final gonna-die scenario for them. Excellent!

Caligula January 9 2010 05:14 AM

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Bullet in the brainpan! SQUISH! :evil:

You know, I always thought there was something odd about Boyd. Now we know why!

David cgc January 9 2010 05:16 AM

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I just want to say I really liked the gag where DeWitt poked her head in the medical room and told Topher to see her once Dr. Saunders was done with him, left, and then doubled back for her, "Where the fuck did you come from?" moment. That actually does play well with the sped-up pace of the arc; these people really have not had the chance to adapt to the a status quo.

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Caligula wrote: (Post 3736791)
You know, I always thought there was something odd about Boyd. Now we know why!

I always assumed he was some kind of cop or something and was forced out of his job. That impression was altered in the Sierra episode, when we found out he had a guy who hid dead bodies on speed-dial. Of course, cut-throat neuroscientist isn't a much better fit for that factoid than "cop" was. Maybe he's a composite, too.


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