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Jetfire October 24 2009 11:36 PM

If Data Was A Female...
 
IMHO Data is atleast in the top 3 of favorite TNG characters...would Data be more popular with fans if that character was female? I know it would depend on who the actress was and her portrayal of the character not to mention the way the character was written.

Snaploud October 24 2009 11:39 PM

Re: If Data Was A Female...
 
We already have Seven of Nine. There's really no need to wonder.

SilentP October 24 2009 11:44 PM

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At least that 'joke' in INS may of made more sense.... :shifty:

Skywalker October 25 2009 02:25 AM

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It really would have depended on the actress' performance. Data isn't so well-liked because he was made to resemble a male; it was because of Brent Spiner's performance. Making Data "female" wouldn't automatically make the character more popular.

Wesley Crusher could have remained Leslie Crusher, but that still wouldn't have guaranteed that the character would be better liked. For all we know, Leslie could have ended up even worse than Wesley did.

Jetfire October 25 2009 03:15 AM

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I guess we saw this with Lal...love that episode :)


Browncoat October 25 2009 03:11 PM

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I don't know if making Data female would have made him more well-liked. Like some of the posters explained above, there have been some examples of android/android-like women that haven't necessarily been more popular than Data as a male.

I think that a Data-like woman would have been seen as cold and unlikeable by the fan base, even if she'd have acted the same as Data (with the female version of a Brent Spiner). The women characters in Trek have a tendency to have to show "sensitive" sides at some point: Yar had her bruised past and friendship with Data and some sexy stuff, even 7 of 9 had to start "opening up." Kira Nerys ended up becoming almost soap opera-y gooey sensitive (just using the "stronger" women as an example).

USS Triumphant October 25 2009 09:07 PM

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It certainly would have made Data's ... interlude... with Tasha Yar in "The Naked Now" a whole lot more interesting. And if they had had the balls of Star Trek TOS, that could have slowly been a launching point for some social issues over the course of the 7 years of the series: Tasha not being okay with it because of the society she comes from, but deciding that it doesn't have to mean that she is gay because Data is a machine. Data later attempting to explore issues of sexuality, and becoming confused when most other crew people don't have the same issues Yar did, but some do for different reasons. In particular, I can envision a conversation between this female Data and Dr. Crusher at the end of "The Host" with Data asking Beverly why it makes a difference that Odan is in a female body....

Summer Glau would have been way too young to play our female Data, obviously, as would Keegan Connor Tracy - but I think the fact that I could see either of them playing the part well proves (to me, anyway) that they could have found a convincing actress for the role back then.

Jetfire October 25 2009 09:19 PM

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^

Erin Gray would have been great as a female Data.

FalTorPan October 25 2009 09:32 PM

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Jetfire wrote: (Post 3519373)
^

Erin Gray would have been great as a female Data.

Although, being born in 1950, she would probably have been considered "too old" to play Data (37 at the start of TNG).

Finn October 26 2009 04:57 PM

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Spiner was born in 1949.....

Snaploud October 26 2009 05:35 PM

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WereBeagle wrote: (Post 3521669)
Spiner was born in 1949.....

You've obviously forgotten the most important assumption: that a female Data would be a twenty-year-old sexpot with a tendency not to understand the need to wear so much clothing.

WillsBabe October 26 2009 08:00 PM

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If Data had been female I think they'd have had her explore her sexuality in ways that they didn't with Data. I think she'd have had vulnerabilities in the way that Data didn't seem to and maybe less autonomy. However much Data was a machine and striving to be human he always seemed to know his own mind and be his own person. I don't know how that would have played out if Data had been female. I wonder if Picard, for instance, would have been paternalisitic in the way that he pretty much wasn't with (a male) Data.

Finn October 27 2009 07:50 PM

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*cough*withgeordi*cough*

Red Ranger October 27 2009 08:20 PM

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WereBeagle wrote: (Post 3525340)
*cough*withgeordi*cough*

I can definitely see Geordi with a female Data, as a female android would probably be more approachable for the romantically clumsy Geordi than the other women he tried to make it with (Aquiel being an exception.) If they wanted to go the female sexpot, I would've cast Marta DuBois as a female Data. Also, Tricia O'Neal, who played Captain Rachel Garrett in Yesterday's Enterprise, would make a good, quietly sexy android. -- RR

C.E. Evans October 27 2009 08:37 PM

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WereBeagle wrote: (Post 3525340)
*cough*withgeordi*cough*

Yup. And quite a few episodes would have touched upon her trying to understand her feelings for Geordi...

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Snaploud wrote:
You've obviously forgotten the most important assumption: that a female Data would be a twenty-year-old sexpot with a tendency not to understand the need to wear so much clothing.

That too.


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