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thew40 September 21 2009 03:24 AM

Treking through all Star Trek
 
One of my big nerd fantasies was to watch all of Star Trek in chronological order. For years, this was nothing more than a fevered dream. But now I’m in a position to do it.


(yes, I know there's someone else doing the same in this forum, but um . . . I'm different)


I've been a Trekkie for a long time, though never really one to go to cons or even post in a forum. But now? Not only am I watching all of Star Trek in chronological order, but I'll be posting reviews here.



DVD prices are dropping, I’m making more, and I have this kinda last chance to do something stupid/nerdy/fun before the wife and I start making babies. Now I’m not saying that I may have to pause in my viewings, as money may prevent from doing this as much as I would like to. But I’m at least set for Enterprise Season One. As soon as I finish picking up Seasons Two-Four, I should be golden until TNG Season One, which where the next gap in my collection comes.

Reviews won’t be exceptionally elaborate, though I may take the time to talk about how this particular episodes fits into the macro-view of the Star Trek universe. I may (at the beginning or ending of a series) take the time to talk a little bit more about the series itself and my feelings about it.

We’re starting with “Broken Bow” and going until “Star Trek” XI. So let’s kick it off . . .


Series: Enterprise
Episode: “Broken Bow”
Trek Installment # 1
Grade: B+
Viewing Date: September 14, 2009


Brown Bow is probably one of the strongest pilots of the Trek pilots. Lots of action and adventure. Some great pure Trek moments, like seeing and visiting new planets for the first time. It’s kinda fun to watch Trip, Hoshi, and Archer bumble around Rigel X with only T’Pol to set them right.

In a lot of ways, it gives us a nice ground up look from Star Trek. These characters are far more down to Earth in that they can sometimes just come off as ignorant. The human characters in particular are interesting because they each seem to bring something to the table. Hoshi’s scared shitless, Reed’s sleeps with a phaser underneath his pillow, Mayweather is green but eager, and Archer is so incredibly determined.

During the scene with where the Vulcans and Starfleet suits are debating over the fate of Klaang, it’s very interesting to see just how wrong Archer is. The Klingons would see Klaang’s fate as an honor. The Vulcans are the more reasonable choice to handle the matter. But Archer’s frustration and stubborn-ness in demanding he do it his way flies in the face of what we know about Klingon lore. It’s very interesting to watch immature humans go up against aliens of a more “mature” frame of mind.

The decon scene is way over-sexed, though it’s interesting to watch given Trip and T’Pol’s future relationship.

I liked Future Guy’s appearance here. I really wish they had stuck with this subplot. With the recent conversations revealing that it may have been a Romulan transmitting from the future, I think this could really have been something. The Suliban themselves are presented as a very fascinating threat, though I wouldn’t exactly call them that. At times, their actions didn’t make a ton of sense. There was a lot of potential with the Temporal Cold War that really didn’t pay off in the end. I think I’ll get to that later.

The ending falls apart a little bit. The helix just kinda collapsing because Archer’s got some an awesome machine is way too simple. Why didn’t any of the ships chase Enterprise or try and go after it while they were in upper levels of the gas giant? What did the Klingons message say?

Speaking of Klingon, the First City looked great. Very gothic. The Klingons themselves actually reminded a lot of the TOS Klingons, though I can’t rightly explain how. Just something about them.

I digress . . .

I did my best with this episode to take it as though this was the very beginning of the Star Trek saga and under those circumstances, the opening credits seem very appropriate. The work being done on the Enterprise and its eventual launch instills a certain epic feel to the episode that I feel lacks in some many pilots (though I could always change my mind later). There’s something very rousing, though, about the launch of the Enterprise. Admiral Forrest’s speech, Cochrane’s speech, Archer’s flashback, and the launch itself just bring about a very awesome sequence.

The Good:

- The scenes where T’Pol and the rest of the crew start to get along and she actually drops her bitchy Vulcan princess attitude
- The characters are all nice and fresh and new
- Everyone getting their “space legs,” as it were
- The Temporal Cold War being so tantalizing and intriguing, yet also mysterious

The Bad:
- Jolene Blalock’s T’Pol really needs work. Her exchange with Hoshi when Sato is freaking out a little on the bridge is way un-Vulcan
- Just some of the plot-holey stuff I mentioned above

thew40 September 22 2009 04:26 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
Series: Enterprise - Season One
Episode: “Fight or Flight”
Trek Installment # 2
Grade: C+
Viewing Date: September 15, 2009

I felt this was a decent episode, though nothing really too exciting. The plot itself is fairly generic, but the characters shine in. T’Pol is very clearly the voice of reason, despite what Archer thinks. First contact with the Axanar is neat and I like how it plays with the idea that not every alien speaks English as had been presented quite a bit before hand.

I really liked Sato in this episode and she shined in just about all of her scenes. It’s refreshing to have someone whose not all gung-ho about being in space. In particular, the scene where she tries to come up with excuses not to go is well done in that not only does it reveal more about her character but also shows up that Archer is very unlike most captains. Picard, Kirk, Sisko, and Janeway would have simply been like “Get over it and put your suit on.” Whereas Archer takes the time to talk to her and listen to her, but still maintaining the same “get over it” stance.

The conflict in it of itself is appropriately over their heads. I like that we saw the Axanar, but not the fluid stealing aliens. That being said, the conflict resolves itself rather magically. Hoshi needs to get over her doubts by doing something stupid like talking to them rather texting – even though it shouldn’t actually be that way because if she can’t write and she knows she can’t speak it, then what’s the difference? Tone? Hmmm. Not explained. And then, just as the Axanar get off their first couple of shots, the targeting scanners miraculously work again. A little too clean an ending, if you ask me.

The Sluggo subplot was fun, though.

NCC-1701-B September 22 2009 04:34 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
What are you going to do about Voyager and DS9? They happen at the same time :D

Itisnotlogical September 22 2009 05:17 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
If it's in chronological order wouldn't you watch Star Trek XI after ENT?

DevilEyes September 22 2009 07:34 PM

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NCC-1701-B wrote: (Post 3421238)
What are you going to do about Voyager and DS9? They happen at the same time :D

Follow in the Sykonee's footsteps? http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=88319

thew40 September 22 2009 08:28 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
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NCC-1701-B wrote: (Post 3421238)
What are you going to do about Voyager and DS9? They happen at the same time :D

I've arranged the episodes of TNG/DS9/VOY by airdate and (when necessary) storyarc.

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itisnotlogical wrote: (Post 3421393)
If it's in chronological order wouldn't you watch Star Trek XI after ENT?

Yes. Star Trek XI is dead last.

apenpaap September 23 2009 12:50 AM

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thew40 wrote: (Post 3416135)
(yes, I know there's someone else doing the same in this forum, but um . . . I'm different)

Don't worry. I stopped a month ago.

EDIT: Also, if you want to really watch it chronologically, Living Witness comes last (It is the latest set episode that does not involve travel to/from the future)

EDIT2: Here's the list I used in my thread:
ENT Season 1-3 (Without Regeneration)
ENT Season 4, without In a Mirror, Darkly and These are the Voyages
TOS until The Tholian Web
In a Mirror, Darkly (The Defiant, which is the only thing from the Prime Universe in the episode, comes from The Tholian Web)
Rest of TOS
TAS
Movies 1-6 and the first bit of Generations
TNG Season 1-5
TNG Season 6 and DS9 Season 1
TNG Season 7 until The Pegasus and DS9 Season 2 until The Alternate
These are the Voyages (Set during The Pegasus)
Rest of TNG Season 7 and DS9 Season 2
DS9 Season 3 until Meridian
Generations
Rest of DS9 Season 3 and VOY Season 1
DS9 Season 4 and VOY Season 2
DS9 Season 5 until Things Past and VOY Season 3 until Warlord
First Contact
Regeneration
Rest of DS9 Season 5 and VOY Season 3
DS9 Season 6 and VOY Season 4 (Without Living Witness)
DS9 Season 7 until Covenant and VOY Season 5 until Thirty Days
Insurrection
Rest of DS9 Season 7 and VOY Season 5
VOY Season 6-7
Nemesis
Trek XI (Nero and Spock, the only people from the Prime Universe, are from 2387)
Living Witness (Set in the far future)

M September 23 2009 01:03 AM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
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thew40 wrote: (Post 3422094)
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itisnotlogical wrote: (Post 3421393)
If it's in chronological order wouldn't you watch Star Trek XI after ENT?

Yes. Star Trek XI is dead last.

Huh? Aren't you rewatching the first season of Enterprise right now? So, are you sticking Star Trek (2009) directly after These Are the Voyages ... or what?

thew40 September 23 2009 04:46 AM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
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NCC-1701 wrote: (Post 3423005)
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thew40 wrote: (Post 3422094)
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itisnotlogical wrote: (Post 3421393)
If it's in chronological order wouldn't you watch Star Trek XI after ENT?

Yes. Star Trek XI is dead last.

Huh? Aren't you rewatching the first season of Enterprise right now? So, are you sticking Star Trek (2009) directly after These Are the Voyages ... or what?

Nope. After Nemesis. Just like apenpaap, since Spock Prime and Nero are from 2387, it's going last.

Like I mentioned earlier, since TNG/DS9/VOY/movies 7-10 overlap, they've been arranged by airdate.

M September 23 2009 05:10 AM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
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thew40 wrote: (Post 3423631)
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NCC-1701 wrote: (Post 3423005)
Huh? Aren't you rewatching the first season of Enterprise right now? So, are you sticking Star Trek (2009) directly after These Are the Voyages ... or what?

Nope. After Nemesis. Just like apenpaap, since Spock Prime and Nero are from 2387, it's going last.

So, your answer to the question 'Wouldn't you watch Star Trek XI after ENT?' should have been 'No' and not 'Yes'. I guess I got a little confused.

thew40 September 23 2009 08:02 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
Series: Enterprise - Season One
Episode: “Strange New World”
Trek Installment # 3
Grade: C-
Date: September 15, 2009


The premise of the episode is reasonable – dangerous undetectable pollen causes away team to become paranoid. Chaos ensues. But it drags on . . . and on . . . and on. It broaches on silly, with no interesting twists, no character revealing moments, just crazy paranoia. And all is forgiven at the end.

Again, T’Pol is the voice of reason. Again, Archer's ambition gets in the way and causes trouble. Again, no one listens to the experienced Vulcan.

There are some nice little moments, but none of them are very exciting. The “lower deck” crewmembers at the beginning is nice, though I don’t think we see any of them ever again (except for Cutler). The amazement at arriving at a new world is a nice touch, as it’s all pretty new to this crew.

Tulin September 24 2009 09:58 AM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
Watching all of ENT.........you can only have our sympathies.

:(

apenpaap September 24 2009 01:57 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
^Thanks for providing the mandatory Enterprise bash.

barnaclelapse September 24 2009 02:25 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
Hope you have a good time, man. I've always wanted to try for that.

Shazam! September 24 2009 02:39 PM

Re: Treking through all Star Trek
 
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NCC-1701 wrote: (Post 3423689)
So, your answer to the question 'Wouldn't you watch Star Trek XI after ENT?' should have been 'No' and not 'Yes'. I guess I got a little confused.

But he is watching Star Trek XI after Enterprise : /


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