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drychlick August 7 2009 07:25 AM

william shatner academy when is part 2 & 3 coming out
 
has any 1 read part 1 yet? is it good? when is part 2 & 3 coming out? love dr:)

Therin of Andor August 7 2009 09:09 AM

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drychlick wrote: (Post 3273341)
has any 1 read part 1 yet? is it good? when is part 2 & 3 coming out? love dr:)

It's certainly better than the "Captain's Peril/Blood/Glory" trilogy, but it takes a few departures from fan expectations and got its share of criticism. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

Shatner had a falling out with Pocket over this book and accused them of underpromoting it, and was angry that Simon & Schuster Audioworks didn't commission an audio version. So far, he doesn't have a contract to write the sequel, as far as I know. No one ever said this would be a trilogy, though.

Allyn Gibson August 7 2009 12:36 PM

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Therin of Andor wrote: (Post 3273518)
Shatner had a falling out with Pocket over this book and accused them of underpromoting it,

Shatner may have a point, there. I get the impression sometimes that Pocket's sales and marketing departments couldn't sell water to a thirsty man. I don't think they know how to promote or sell.

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No one ever said this would be a trilogy, though.
Yeah, I thought this would be a two book set.

Steve Roby August 7 2009 01:06 PM

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Therin of Andor wrote: (Post 3273518)
It's certainly better than the "Captain's Peril/Blood/Glory" trilogy, but it takes a few departures from fan expectations and got its share of criticism.

Well, if there's anyone who out there who wanted a brash, young, troublemaking Kirk who gets the Enterprise way too early, but thought the new movie version of Kirk was too much of a shy, unassuming guy who couldn't prematurely run a starship if his life depended on it, this book might be what they're looking for.

King Daniel Into Darkness August 7 2009 01:40 PM

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I read Collision Course right after seeing the new Star Trek. I'm not too sure about the Back to the Future-style flying cars, or that every building at SFA is named after an Enterprise character, but I liked it.

I also much prefer the millitary school-style academy to the Wesley factory it's usually depicted as.

The book contradicts every other Young Kirk book, as well as the rest of the Shatnerverse. If that sort of thing ruins a book for you, avoid it. If you like lots of sillyness (including the worst laser/phaser excuse ever), you'll probably enjoy it.

Man of Steel August 7 2009 01:55 PM

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drychlick wrote: (Post 3273341)
has any 1 read part 1 yet? is it good? when is part 2 & 3 coming out? love dr:)

No one ever said this would be a trilogy, though.


The back of the book (softcover version) says "The adventure continues in" and it lists the title of the book which I forget what that is.

Deranged Nasat August 7 2009 01:57 PM

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KingDaniel wrote: (Post 3273823)
I also much prefer the millitary school-style academy to the Wesley factory it's usually depicted as..

I really must disagree there. I hated this book's depiction of Starfleet Academy. Starfleet cadets are in training to be explorers, diplomats, and scientists first, soldiers when necessary (the uniform-rank-weapons stuff is because they need to be prepared to jump into the role of soldier if need be) not "the army". The training style at Shatner's version of the Academy was of a type I despise in real life, yet alone in the future of the Federation. If it isn't even appopriate for real soldiers- and I'm sure it's not- it certainly isn't appropriate to Starfleet. The "Wesley Factory" is what Starfleet and the Federation are supposed to be about.

Christopher August 7 2009 02:01 PM

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KingDaniel wrote: (Post 3273823)
(including the worst laser/phaser excuse ever)

Okay, I have to know -- what is it?

King Daniel Into Darkness August 7 2009 02:21 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 3273855)
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KingDaniel wrote: (Post 3273823)
(including the worst laser/phaser excuse ever)

Okay, I have to know -- what is it?

You know how in 'The Cage' they use lasers?
You know how in Enterprise, they use phasers?
Without spoiling too much, Starfleet needs non-lethal weapons in 2250-something. The book says that during the Romulan War phase pistols were phased out (sorry) and replaced by lasers to better fight Romulan robot drones. They then imply that the technology for phaser weapons was lost, but say that starfleet is developing a new version of the phaser but it'll be a few years before it's in use yet.

Why they couldn't just any of the non-lethal weapons available today is a mystery.

Christopher August 7 2009 02:51 PM

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That is overthinking it. It's simpler just to assume they were saying "phasers" in "The Cage" all along, which is no doubt what Roddenberry would've preferred (just as he preferred to believe that Klingons always had ridged foreheads). He changed it because he decided calling the weapons "lasers" had been a mistake.

After all, going by that Czech closed-captioning transcript site, the word "laser" is only used twice in the whole pilot. Easy enough to gloss over. Also, there's no way a laser could build up a "force chamber explosion" -- that's not how a laser works.

Therin of Andor August 7 2009 08:14 PM

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Man of Steel wrote: (Post 3273843)
The back of the book (softcover version) says "The adventure continues in" and it lists the title of the book...

Exactly. So it might have been intended be a duology. Or an open-ended series, if the first one did well. But no one has ever mentioned it being a trilogy, and Shatner didn't have a multi book contract for this one.

"Trial Run":
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Academy:_Trial_Run


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