Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x06 - "Whistlespeak"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, May 1, 2024.

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  1. Bad Thoughts

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    Although it might be rationalized, it is still a lazy trope that undermines the notion that indigenous peoples may have their own creativity and achievements. It's a lazy and insulting practice.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    You totally squeeed back in the day, when he Galactican Super Scouts pwned those professional baseball players at playing base ball, with their high gravity super powers.
     
  3. Quantum21

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    It's established in the episode Starfleet training gives them an edge against civilians. It's literally in the dialogue.
     
  4. Bad Thoughts

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    You understand what a trope is in fiction, I'm sure.
     
  5. Quantum21

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    There's nothing really unique in what they had to do. It's a cultural event but there's no specific ritual but to outlast. Again, the Starfleet officers are trained.
     
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  6. Phoenix219

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    I watched this back to back with a TNG rewatch I'm doing with some youtubers, and the episode was Who Watches the Watchers.... talk about similar themes and topic material. Such a dichotomy of styles. Such an interesting comparison.
     
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  7. Quantum21

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    This episode has almost a completely opposite take on the issue than that episode. It's not that similar really.
     
  8. Phoenix219

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    Thats what makes it a dichotomy and an interesting comparison.

    (i am the anti-binger, i watch one a week, and i am a couple weeks behind, just a fyi, since i've been active on these threads the last few weeks.)
     
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  9. Phoenix219

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    I said the same thing... fix the other towers! Even if the people are dead, they can recolonize the cities eventually!
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Nope.

    Let them die*



    *joke. Airplane reference.
     
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  11. Skywalker

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    I'm sure Starfleet in the 32nd century has its own Cerritos-like ships for follow-up missions like that.
     
  12. Phoenix219

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    We see them with the piece, but not actually retrieving it. Its what had me start wondering if they turned on the other towers.



    I really, really wanted one of them to be Pulaski. As a top molecular biologist and surgeon, she would have been derserving IMO.



    yeah, i was basically yelling at the tv at that point, going if they are suffocating, the fires would not be burning strong... lol.
     
  13. Phoenix219

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    I thought they made it pretty clear that each of them had a panel like that, and that this one would fail like the other 4 if they didn't do something.
     
  14. Phoenix219

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    Knowing the Denobulans were out there way before the 24th century, I kind of assumed that they did this at some point in the past, well before the 24th century. The planet was still on its trade routes path in the 24th, but that has nothing to do with when the technology was installed.
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    But fire in space is ok?
     
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  16. Phoenix219

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    In my favorite TrekBBS thread ever, a few of us decided it was Al telling Sam Beckett about the Prime Directive, leading to the clunky dialogue from Archer, and thus explaining most of Archer's bumbles.
     
  17. Phoenix219

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    Well, it was in Pen Pals, and then again in Who Watches the Watchers, because Bev isn't as good as Kate.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    Ensigns and Cadets are trained physical masters of their body and the universe.

    That was literally a thousand years ago.

    The higher up the chain of command you go, the more of your job is about thinking and pointing rather than doing or running faster than a savage that has been training consistently for years to compete towards a world saving religious epiphany.

    "Starfleet training is superior!" is unfounded boundless arrogance from a prideful people about to take a great fall.

     
  19. Phoenix219

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    Nope. That shouldn't happen either.
     
  20. fireproof78

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    Might be in the wrong franchise then.