What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Rahul

    Rahul Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Actually.... not just for prequels.
    I think this is true in general.

    Like, at no point during PIC or future DISCO did I ever think "you know what, maybe this time the tentacle robots, Borg, angry Q, 10-C or Orions will really DO destroy all of human life!"

    However - "will Data betray his friends to save the only other artificial life he knows?", "Which side will win the Klingon civil war? Will Worf come back to Starfleet?" "Will Riker kill Picard to save Earth from the Borg?" - those are all stakes that, even while they don't, feel like they actually could change the status quo dramatically, and such work much better.

    (This is not exclusive to Trek - Superhero movies have the same problem of ever-increasing stakes to the point of ridiculousness)
     
  2. Shawnster

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    That is one of the big problems I have with the serialized Treks of DISCO and PIC. Each season is a fate of the Federation/Galaxy concept

    Now, SNW did end with a potential Gorn invasion, but not every episode was an all or nothing quest.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    Controversial opinion time: I do not mind galaxy ending threats, and do not find them ridiculous.
     
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  4. Lord Garth

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    I don't have time to weigh in the way I would like, so I'll have to reluctantly sit this round out.

    I'll wait until the next time it comes up. Captain Harriman says it's going to come up again on Tuesday! It's his favorite day. Always has been, since he was born. His mother complained when she went into labor that he wasn't born until Tuesday.
     
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  5. ananta

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    Yikes that would be one HELL of a retcon—and not in a good way, in my opinion, as it doesn’t fit with what we know of the TOS characters…even though it probably would fit with the SNW characters. Which I suppose is part of my problem with SNW. I don’t really see them as the same characters. They’re somebody else’s vision. At this point, I actually wish they’d leave the original characters be and create more of their own.

    But that’s just my two cents and I know it’s controversiiial. I do get what you are saying about missing parts of the characters’ biographical history and it’s a legitimate take. I just feel I don’t want or need to know every part of their biography. I like that there are missing gaps and don’t want everything spelled out.

    Which is maybe why SNW is not working for me as well as it is for most of the fandom.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Especially with Picard's line about attending Sarek's son's wedding. It would be interesting to fill in those gaps.
     
  7. Farscape One

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    About that line...

    Given how tight-lipped that family is about their members, I wonder if it is another son of Sarek that isn't Spock or Sybok. He did marry another human woman, Perrin... maybe that's their son.
     
  8. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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  9. Ovation

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    It’s machine washable, dahling. That’s a new feature.
     
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  10. Mage

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    It did? Kinda curious as to how.
     
  11. cooleddie74

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    The Sha-Ka-Ree entity telepathically transmitted engineering knowledge to Sybok that he passed on to his followers that allowed them to radically modify the Enterprise-A's engines, thus making the journey amazingly brief.
     
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  12. Tallguy

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    First the Kelvins and now this. Don't these people ever take notes? Or pictures?
     
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  13. BK613

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    For the longest time, it was in my head canon that the Kelvan engineer was why the Enterprise in TMP became what it was.
     
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  14. Forbin

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    Re: Speed of Plot™ - I may be misremembering this, but I recall an episode of Alias, where Sydney, at HQ (in LA?), received a distress call from someone in Eastern Europe who was being attacked, hopped on the company business jet, and arrived to help while the fight was still going on. A shorter distance than from the Neutral Zone to Earth during a Borg attack, but still... I mean... Wha??
     
  15. fireproof78

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    No.
     
  16. Tallguy

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    See? THAT'S speed of plot. EDIT: Just realized: That's a JJ show, isn't it?
     
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  17. cooleddie74

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    Technically that species was Kelvans. With an a.

    [*Pedant hat comes off*]
     
  18. Tiran O'Saurus

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    I just realized: the Kelvans left the Andromeda galaxy long before 2233. In other words, it's very possible for there to be Kelvin Kelvans!
     
  19. Praetor

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    All of them would be played by Benedict Cumberbatch, though. Now there's a controversial opinion.
     
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  20. fireproof78

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    More Cumberbach is always acceptable to me.