Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

DS9 also put the Eugenics Wars in the 22nd Century

It was a writing error, but it works now.

 

This is actually my favorite place for Star Trek. Especially if we're suggesting that there was a nuclear WWIII.

 

I blame time traveling Romulans.

 

Now I have to find away to work a 2174 Eugenics War flare up into the Enterprise Pitch Game,

 

In the end, far more things point to the Eugenics Wars being a 21st Century World War III. If the timeline was affected by Romulan time travelers, what they did was put TOS out of sync with everything else. Making the Prime Timeline...

ENT - DSC - SNW - TNG - DS9 - VOY - LDS - PRO - PIC

Or......

it's all a work of fiction, which is subject to change at any point and we just have to deal with it.

 

Nah, that's crazy talk.

 

Use Colonel Green's descendants.

 

That would be....optimum.

 

A case of out of sight, out of mind.

Voyager only visited Los Angeles in '96, not the Middle East, North Africa, India or Australia. Its not really distressing that they did not mention the Eugenics Wars.

Archer’s great-grandfather either enlists in the army at 18, or lied about his age, around the time of Desert Storm in ’91. And does more tours during the '90s Eugenics War - Eugenics War I - which overlaps with Desert Storm.

Then in 2026 through early 2040s, Archer’s great grandfather serves again in the 21st century in Eugenics War II (approximately ages 53 through 64, this time as a general). He might have even stayed on longer into his 70s, if the war effort was going really badly at the lime.

This is also plenty of time for Archer’s grandfather to be born, who could have been the youngest of a litter of Archers in a 50 year span. And then Henry Archer is born in the late 2070s (if actor’s age lines up with Henry Archer’s age). And then Jonathan Archer is born in 2112.

Which could also have been Eugenics Wars III, and incorporate not just human Augments and a clone of Khan, but Suliban, Denobulans, Klingons, etc. as well. Basically anyone that was big on eugenics at the time.

 

The Eugenics War is World War III and happens later in the 21st century. And that's the way it is.

Next.

 

TRELANE: Oh, really? Have I made an error in time? How fallible of me.

 

*27th

By that logic, the Eugenics Wars either hasn’t happened yet, or could be a future conflict that occurs in the 25th/26th century.

Maybe its better to consider it a perpetually recurring conflict within the Star Trek universe.

 

The Eugenics War grows out of the Second (American, presumably) Civil War and then develops into World War III. Or at least, that's how Pike made it sound in the first episode. And "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" makes it clear that these events are on a sliding timescale due to temporal shenanigans from the future.

So, yes, Archer's great-grandfather could have very easily fought in the Eugenics War, because now it occurs in the mid-21st century, not the 1990s.

 

It was already 'moved' by VOY in the two part episode they went to 1996.

(And Trek continuity has never been wholly consistent anyway in TOS AND the Berman era, long before the first episode of Strange New Worlds. The fan term for it going all the way back to TOS era fandom is: YATI = Yet Another Trek Inconsistency.)