The Nature of the Universe, Time Travel and More...

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Will The Serious, Feb 7, 2023.

  1. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    Thanks to this thread I started my third rewatch of the series Seven Days, the last time I watched it was January 2023
     
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  2. Will The Serious

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    You are welcome.

    I did not know what the series Seven Days is, but it sounds like Scifi at its best. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

    -Will
     
  3. Will The Serious

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    A bit on time travel.

    I came across this article, Is Time Trave Possible?
    This is my take on time travel, as well. The Grandfather Paradox is not a possible scenario because one's existence is proof that your past includes a surviving grandfather.

    However, where the possibility of infinite parallel universes can exist, perhaps the act of traveling back in time and successfully killing your own grandfather would cause a split into two parallel universes where you, as the successful killer, would become trapped in a new branch universe as one with no grandfather because your origins were from a different place.

    You killed the man who seemed destined to father your father or mother, but in this new universe, you were never born. You, on the other hand, still have your past, father, mother, grandfather, but they exist in another universe. No paradox, no disappearing from a loss of your past, just a separate timeline.

    Now, how to get back from both the past and another universe?

    Imagine the disappointment the time traveler might experience when returning to discover nothing has changed at all. Even any recorded data of the time traveler's presence in the past would cause a bifurcation of the time-line. The returned time traveler would not even be able to research an old newspaper clipping and find a reference to the event.

    Unless!

    This might be possible: What if that newspaper article did exist, but the time traveler didn't know it existed?
    It might still be possible to affect the past as long as the information in the future, about the past, was a new discovery in the future's future. The time traveler's past always included the proof of time travel, it just hasn't been discovered.

    Example: You travel into the past to invest in a stock you know has had a steep rise. You buy a bunch of certificates in your name, place them into a safety deposit box at a bank you use in your own time, then return to the original time.

    You may be able to collect those stock certificates if you never knew they didn't exist. What if you never checked your safety deposit box before because, until you purchased the box in the past, you never realized you owned it. So there was no safety deposit box to know about, from your present day perspective. However, you return to your time with the key in your pocket and the new knowledge that you own the bank box, and the stocks. No paradox and you get rich.

    Now, imagine time travel is possible, and that sometime in the future, someone will invent a time machine. As time travel advances, becomes cheaper, more commonly accessible, how likely is it you will be an ancestors of a future time traveler?

    Let's hope you don't father the father of some psychopathic scientist hell bent on proving the Grandfather Paradox. However, if you prepared. You could tell your children to become scientist who study time travel. Tell them to raise younger scientists to discover time travel. Insist that their children, their children's children, and so on into the very distant future, as far as need be, all you future generations move towards the discovery of time travel and when they do...

    Your future progeny should travel back in time to the date, Wednesday, the 8th of May, 2024, and teach you the secret of time travel.

    There, time travel discovered in one day.

    I'll let you know if I have any future generations that get into time travel. At this point, however, I doubt I will have any future generations after my own two kids, so maybe one of you should try.

    -Will
     
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  4. Will The Serious

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    Update: Apparently not.

    I Don't know if that means I don't grandfather future generations, or if it's just that none get to travel back in time. The good news is that no one has used me to prove the Grandfather Paradox possible.

    -Will
     
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  5. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    Wall of text must be great drugs
     
  6. Will The Serious

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    -Will
     
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    Good name for a band, though, I will say… ‘Wall of Text’

    Cheers,
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