Gina Carano Sueing for Wrongful Termination from Disney

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  1. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Pwning libtard noobs with knowledge bombs?
     
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  2. Skipper

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    Oh, we always knew and we always cared. The big difference was the filters between us and the celebrity in question.

    Once upon a time, if an actor wanted to make their political ideas known to the general public, they could practically only do so through an interview. Or by supporting this or that candidate in some election. Let's say that in these contexts it was difficult to bring out the most extreme ideologies. Sometimes there were reports of inappropriate behavior on set, but let's say they were more manageable on a PR level.

    Now practically anyone can drink a few too many drinks, take out their cell phone and write on X what they really think about ethnic minorities, homosexuals or Jews. And I don't know how many times someone is surprised to discover that when they write something hateful and horrible, people don't take it well. And this someone gets offended.

    Forgetting that...
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  3. Skipper

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    :rofl:
    Seriously, shouldn't these people have an agent or social media manager telling them "DON'T DO IT!"?
     
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  4. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Did some one take her phone away, and then give it back after they were fired or quit?

    Sure? Why not.
     
  5. Jayson1

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    The Carano case isn't a free speech issue. It's whether or not they treated her with the same standards on her free speech as they do all other Disney employees. Since they say she was let go due to her Nazi metaphor then all you have do is look and see if they are firing or refuse to rehire other Disney employees using Nazi metaphors when talking about politics.

    I believe she was not fired. They just didn't renew her contract or sign her to another one. Thus the idea that you can sue to get your job back doesn't make sense if you were no longer even a employee. At best she can maybe get some money for some kind of political discrimination by pointing out all the other Disney employess who have made Nazi comparisons online, yet stay employed.

    That to me seems to be where the whole case is. Was she treated equally with other Disney employees when talking about politics.
     
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  6. UssGlenn

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    I'm a big fan of XKCD, but this makes the common mistake of equating the right of free speech with the First Amendment. They are 2 separate things. The Constitution considers our rights to exist independently (granted by the creator). The First Amendment prevents the government from violating that right. Its just that its not illegal for private entities to violate your right to free speech. So your right to free speech can be violated without violating your first amendment rights.
     
  7. Set Harth

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    Same thing with dorm rooms. :scream:
    1, not 2.
     
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  8. Skipper

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    Uh sorry.
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    The point remains. She could have become a favorite of nerds everywhere (which allows for more revenue than other audiences :biggrin:) and she threw it all away because of her own stupidity. You can't even blame "the environment", given that it was also repeatedly explained to her where she was going wrong.
     
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    They like that drywall. ;)
     
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  10. Set Harth

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    She didn't really fit the Disney brand at the end of the day. Disney productions are full of tiny, scrawny girls who somehow kick grown men's asses all day. Carano is a girl who can actually kick your ass in real life, so of course they want nothing to do with her.
     
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  11. Jayson1

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    It was a principled stand but also a dumb one as well. She choose her principles over doing the smart thing which is to shut up and take the money. The interesting question is whether or not it was ethical. On one hand she has some views I don't consider to be ethical when it comes to her views on Trans people, but she was also sort of drawn into a fight she didn't really start either and I have seen some of things people were calling her. "Dumb Bitch and things of that sort and worst." Pretty much the standard asshole on asshole sewer fights that seem commonplace in so many parts of the internet and I guess made famous on Twitter and Youtube comment sections.

    Generally speaking nobody came out that issue looking all that good though Disney might have been hit the worst. Carano can make tons of money being a MAGA queen and all the people wanting her cancelled of course just moved onto the next Cancel Target. Disney lost out on a show that might have been successful and who knows. Maybe the franchise would be in a better place than it is now. The Mandalorian had healed lots of wounds made from the Sequel trilogy and her being fired was sort of the lighting rod that set them back. That and them dumping all those OBI-Wan scripts for new ones. I am convinced that show would have been better if they had went with whatever their first instinct was.
     
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    I find it very hard to imagine she could make anything even close to the kind of money through the MAGA dipshits as she could have made as one of the main characters of a Star Wars series, and I doubt Rangers of the New Republic would have really had that big of an impact on the overall franchise.
     
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    Hence the lawsuit, I suspect.
     
  14. Jayson1

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    I agree but she will still do fine. But even in Star Wars I think she was really not going to have a long lasting career. Her main appeal is she not only looks like a kick ass women, she is one since she was MMA fighter. You want women fighter then she is perfect because she already looks the part. Your not going to have train someone and have her bulk up or make people wander how this 5"5 girl is kicking all these dudes butts. She is already perfect for action movies. Only that stuff will fade as she gets older and then she will have to get by on just acting talent and well I think she is okay as a actor but also limited. Still she could still make money for years and years afterwards by just doing Star Wars conventions and things like that.
     
  15. Tuskin38

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    She starred in some Conservative focused movie after she was let go from Disney, but apparently people called it woke and all that shit.

    She can't catch a break on either side of the political spectrum.
     
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  16. Jayson1

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    Is it that western? I heard that movie is okay. Well it's at least watchable from what I heard unlike that terrible Lady Ballers.