Star Trek 2017 will not be set in the JJ-Verse

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by fyre, Nov 3, 2015.

  1. eyeresist

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    All sorts of ideas have been mentioned as "considered" for ENT 5-7, but I don't think the MU season was a serious suggestion. They might possibly have spent an ep or two revisiting the regime of Empress Hoshi.
     
  2. mlk

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    Is there any explanation as in how Vulcan being blown up won't affect Vulcan in the future?
     
  3. Greg Cox

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    Who says there has to be a Vulcan in the future? We still have no idea if the new series will involve Vulcan or not, or what timeline they'll be using.

    Maybe Vulcan will still be around, maybe Vulcan will be toast. It all depends on when and in what timeline the show is set--which has NOT been announced yet.
     
  4. Kemaiku

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    The New Vulcan colony is right there, no need to have the stuffy old red planet anymore.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    I would watch this.
    There doesn't need to be an explanation, depending on the time period. Given the fact that when GR came up with TNG, it wasn't going to have any references to old villains or aliens, and then slowly added them back in there is precedent for ignoring details.
     
  6. drt

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    Looks like the answer to "PT or KT?" was "both".
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    well Fuller confirmed the new series IS set in the Prime Universe.
     
  8. drt

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    Pre-Narada they're the same thing.
     
  9. Tuskin38

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    Tell that to the Franklin.
     
  10. mswood

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    There hasn't been any violation to date with the Franklin.
     
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  11. Tuskin38

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    The design looks more Kelvin Timeline then Prime: The Window View Screen, the shape of the nacelles.
     
  12. mswood

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    And so look at the Galaxy class and its windows and nacelle design very view ships designed roughly in a ten year time frame have anything similar to it, except for ships that were kit bashes of it. When looking at things like that, people are assuming that all the ships we se represent every single similar industrial design at the same time. And that simply isn't what happens here on earth so I don't think we should assume that is whats in Trek.

    Look at another example from TNG. We have three shuttles and clearly none of them share the same designer, they appear to share very few design elements. DS9 we something similar as we have two shuttles, the last one used looks like it might have been done by the same designer that conceived the Defiant. But the 1st Defiant's shut really doesn't.
     
  13. Nerys Myk

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    Funny when I saw the Discovery I immediately thought of the Franklin.
    Such things as the nacelles and the viewscreen are irrelevant to which timeline or time period its in. One word: NX-01
     
  14. Tuskin38

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    The Kelvin Timeline is the only time we've had Starships with view screen windows, only Shuttles have had windows as the main view.
     
  15. Nerys Myk

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    As I said an irrelevant detail. Only important to people who fret over such things.
     
  16. Tuskin38

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    Don't get me wrong, I like the design, and I enjoyed Beyond, it just doesn't look like it fits.
     
  17. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Fits in as well and the rest
     
  18. mswood

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    Not true. We have had Runabouts with windows, the Federation Scout Ship had windows. And more to the point all starships have windows that people can look through. It might not be a common design. But it doesn't mean it CANT have ever occurred previously. There is quite a difference between something violating canon, and something just not seen before or seen often.

    Heck lets get to Enterprise's time frame or close to it. The Nx Alpha had windows. So did the first warp ship. Sorry it has been done at it hasn't exclusively been shuttles.

    Heck when the bridge module of both the Galaxy NX-01 and Voyager both have areas that have exposed windows, it's not really that odd that some designs might have them on the forward edge of the bridge. Clearly they have materials that are as strong or nearly as metal or other alloys.
     
  19. mswood

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    You can also had the Raven as having windows and that is a much larger size ship then the others I have listed. That one is has four decks to it and has its own shuttle bay.
     
  20. JWPlatt

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    Yup!

    "Prime" ...

    "We’re telling stories in a new way... We’re going to be telling stories like a novel.

    Called it! But while it is new for Star Trek, telling it like a novel when other series are already doing that is no longer "a new way."