STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.8%
  2. A

    20.6%
  3. A-

    13.2%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    7.9%
  6. B-

    4.1%
  7. C+

    5.7%
  8. C

    5.0%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Breaking News:

    Star Trek movies don't obey real-world physics!

    In other news:

    Dog bites man!
     
  2. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    Well, a personal thumbs-up for STiD, my wife loved it.

    My wife is not a sci-fi fan. She loved TNG and DS9, but really only watched it because I was a fan. She never liked any of the Trek movies - thought they were cheesy. She barely liked ST09.

    I finally got her to go last night - it might be the last day to see it in the first-run theatres around here. Talk about last minute.

    In her words - "Wow!"

    She loved the characters, the story arc, the action, the pace of the movie, the mystery, the FX. She thought Cumberbatch made a wonderfully menacing bad guy. In her words, "It's a movie I'd go see again, in the theatre."

    Non-Fans see a great movie here.

    ::Happy Dance::

    ETA:

    You mean the Star Trek with the Warp Drive, Matter/Energy Transporters, Galactic Energy Barriers, Slingshot-Around-the-Sun Time Travel, etc., etc. etc... ?

    50 years of implausible science, The Enterprise falls to earth, and THAT'S where you're drawing your 'Physics Line in the Sand'?
     
  3. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyoeftENAqU[/yt]

    If you guys are interested, I filmed this at a recent convention here in Boston. Marina Sirtis and Levar Burton are talking about Into Darkness quite candidly.
     
  4. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    What, at the rules of gravity? Sure, why not.
     
  5. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Star Trek has never obeyed the rules of gravity, since the ridiculously rapidly decaying orbits of TOS. Your insistence that it start obeying real orbital mechanics now, something it never, ever did before, is completely arbitrary.

    So, to be clear, JJTrek is bad, because it isn't like old Trek. And, it's bad, because it is like old Trek. It can never win.
     
  6. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It took me a few science classes to unlearn what TOS alleged about "decaying orbits" and other nonsense.
     
  7. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    As a Doctor Who fan I take psuedo-science in my stride. I linked to an article exposing the [lack of] science in Star Trek.

    I actually think it would have provided a cooler visual if the laws of gravity had been even slightly adhered to, with the Enterprise streaking across the sky in a decaying orbit as opposed to tumbling like a big sack of spuds.
     
  8. beamMe

    beamMe Commodore

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    Those went out of the window with that scene: http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x01-2-hd/themantraphd004.jpg
     
  9. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The ship crashing into one of the cities on the moon would have been a cool sequence as well.
     
  10. Belz...

    Belz... Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well, movies in general seem to ignore gravity whenever it suits them, so I guess that's a possible reason why not.
     
  11. Belz...

    Belz... Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Absolutely. I certainly would like the movies to move away from Earth a bit.
     
  12. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    You might as well be angry that TOS has something called Artificial Gravity and Inertial Dampers. One keeps the crew from floating 'round, the other keeps them from turning into chunky salsa when the ship accelerates. Both break your Gravity Rules.
     
  13. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    They're not mine : /
     
  14. Set Harth

    Set Harth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Of course Spock runs like a dork.

    Because he is a dork.

    It's just that in Star Trek being a dork is AWESOME.
     
  15. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    Sooooo... fine with those two aspects of far-out gravity fantasy, but totally pissed about the Big E falling to earth in the latest movie.

    Gotcha! :techman:
     
  16. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm complex!
     
  17. Commishsleer

    Commishsleer Commodore Commodore

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    Really you're a Doctor Who fan and you dare question the science of Star Trek :p
    I give Dr Who big big leeway in science but please explain (scientifically) the seven planets episode where someone/something pulled seven planets out of their orbits took them somewhere away from their suns and nobody died.
    That's were I drew my line in the sand with Dr Who :lol:
     
  18. beamMe

    beamMe Commodore

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    :lol:

    It's twenty-seven planets.

    Never, ever use "Dr" when talking about Doctor Who ;)
    But, yeah, the "science" in Doctor Who conforms to the stories, just like it does in Star Trek.
     
  19. Belz...

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    Dr Who has more in common with fantasy than fiction.
     
  20. beamMe

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    I don't see the difference. :)