2012 NFL Offseason

Discussion in 'Sports and Fitness' started by tomalak301, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    The most obvious comparison is Chris Weinke. Cleveland is not one or two years away from making a deep playoff run, especially since they've done fuck-all to improve their receiving situation. Weeden is just good enough to create a quarterback controversy on a shitty Browns team, win the job by default, then put the same team back on the quarterback market as his skills start to fade. Even putting all that aside, I think Weeden's going to have a slower and rougher adjustment than people are projecting for him. He was only a two-year starter, and Gundy runs a pretty extreme spread; it's not like Weeden's a four-year guy out of a conventional attack. He had some pretty bad trouble with his drops in the Senior Bowl, for example. Blowing a first-round pick on him was an absolutely hilarious reach (not as egregious as Miami taking Tannehill at 8, though, oh my holy fuck). There was no one picking between 22 and 37 who needed a quarterback.

    As for the Bears ... man. I'm fine with the Jeffery pick, since it gives the Bears two really big wideouts. The Hardin pick, though ... what the hell. Yes, blow a third-round pick on a guy who started fifteen games in his career and was out all last year with a broken shoulder.
     
  2. Dorian Thompson

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    The senior bowl was an off day for Weeden. He's not Weinke. He'll be fine.
     
  3. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    Saving this post for when he's out of the league in four years. :p

    Knocks on Weeden:

    Has injury history including his fucking shoulder.

    Is old.

    Only started two seasons.

    Played in gimmick offense in gimmick conference.

    Is going to a terrible shithouse team.

    :p
     
  4. Dorian Thompson

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    Throwing a football doesn't hurt his shoulder like throwing a baseball did. He's said that repeatedly. It's a completely different motion; he's never missed a football game due to injury. He's deadly accurate most of the time. No, it's not a "gimmick" but I get where that line of thinking comes from. The man's ridiculously strong and talented. The shithouse team I'll give you. Brandon "only" started 2 seasons because he walked on as a 25 year old who'd been out of football for 5 years and they already had a legitimate, experienced starting quarterback in place in Zach Robinson. Once he got the chance, he took off more than anyone dreamed possible. I have a feeling we'll both remember when the season rolls around. Difference of opinion is the spice of life and all that.

    I just loved it when he destroyed all of those clay pigeons with his throws on the science of sport segment. You have to admit, that was awesome times ten. :lol:
     
  5. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

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    BTW, can anyone possibly explain the Kirk Cousins pick by the Redskins?
     
  6. Dorian Thompson

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    Backup insurance and possible trade bait. At least that's how I interpreted the weird "coach speak" given by a team spokesman.
     
  7. Alidar Jarok

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    Don't they want a veteran as a backup?
     
  8. Dorian Thompson

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    Damned if I know.
     
  9. SmoothieX

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    I threw a SB XLII party at my place, in New England. A funeral broke out at the end of that one.

    I don't know crap about the draft. I've never heard of anyone after the first few players. And anyone who tells you at the water cooler tomorrow that the backup long snapper your team took in the 6th round from Northwest Southeast State has a lot of 'upside' and scored well on the Wonderlic is full of shit.
     
  10. tighr

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    Not really a fan of Weedon, but I think he'll do just fine. Most of your criticisms don't really fly in the NFL, though. Look at how Cam Newton did: Started only one season, is too young, played in a gimmick offense, and went to a shithouse team. That dude set rookie records.
     
  11. Sheep

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  12. Timby

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    Junior Seau killed himself this morning. Son of a bitch. This feels like another Dave Duerson case. :(
     
  13. tomalak301

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    ^I was reading the Shutdown Corner blog on this report and this is reminding me all too much about what went on in the NHL last year and all those deaths. Just incredibly shocking.
     
  14. Neroon

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    Yahoo drew that parallel earlier. And man... it's a thoroughly depressing story.
     
  15. tighr

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    Wow, that sucks. I was just at Seau's Bar in San Diego for New Years. Unbelievable, it feels like he was just in the NFL. He only retired 2 years ago.
     
  16. SmoothieX

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    I saw him play in Foxboro a couple times late in his career. He still had it even after 17 or 18 years.
     
  17. Timby

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    The NFLPA filed suit against the NFL today, alleging collusion (that the NFL had ordered teams to stay under an unofficial salary cap, and that the cap penalties against the Redskins and Cowboys for their massive cap gaming are proof of it).

    I'm somewhat confused by the timing -- the claim is almost certainly barred by the settlement of Brady, et al. v. National Football League, which even the NFLPA kind of admits in its complaint, and their factual basis relies a ton on media rumors from people like Mike Florio, who's rather notorious for making shit up. The union is also only seeking monetary damages (because they don't want to blow up the CBA), which are going to be almost impossible to prove.

    I think the point is to get to the discovery stage and force the NFL to admit a bunch of embarrassing stuff, but the suit is frivolous. Washington and Dallas weren't penalized for going over the cap, they were penalized for structuring contracts in such a way that expected there to be a cap in 2011 and dumping all of the "cap value" in the uncapped 2010 year. This may seem like a slight distinction, but when the NFLPA is alleging a conspiracy to keep in place a hard cap in an uncapped year, the fact that other teams were way over and went unpunished really hurts the union's allegation of a firm and dastardly conspiracy.
     
  18. Thestral

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    What the hell is wrong with the Bears still not giving Forte a contract and saying "oh, maybe we won't because of his knee...." :wtf:
     
  19. Skywalker

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    The era of paying running backs (not named Adrian Peterson) ridiculous money is over, for the most part. Forte's great, but I can understand the Bears' reluctance to give him a huge deal.
     
  20. Timby

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    The Saints kept a ledger of bounty payments. [​IMG]

    How in the world did a team this stupid manage to win the Super Bowl? Oh, right, through the guy they now refuse to pay.

    Imagine the pit in the Saints' stomachs when Vilma said he wanted to take this court. Only more hilarious material will come from this. The bounty scandal truly is the gift that keeps on giving.