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Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by xortex, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. xortex

    xortex Commodore Commodore

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    What other sci-fi franchises would you like to see Trek become more like?

    Someone said they were going to merge ENT with Dr. Who first season. I think that would have made it more popular.
     
  2. Kertrats47

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    What is ENY?
     
  3. JD

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    Given the context, I'm assuming that's supposed to be ENT.
    As for the question, I want to Trek to stay like Trek. I don't see a reason why it would need to be like another other franchise. Honestly, that's when things fail is when they try to hard to be like other stuff. Sure there can be stories done in the style of other things, like Articles of the Federation, but it's still secondary to the Trek elements.
     
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    I'd have written this if you hadn't...

    Having said that, I wouldn't mind a new series going a little grittier in the way of new Galactica or Stargate Universe, but when all is said and done, it should be recognisable Trek.
     
  5. bfollowell

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    No thank you!

    I can't think of anything I'd dislike more.

    Like everyone else said. Let's keep Trek, Trek, period.

    - Byron
     
  6. Kertrats47

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    Agreed. I fell in love with Trek at a young age because it was Star Trek! I enjoy other shows for what they are, but I will always love Star Trek for what it is.
     
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    If Trek were to become 'like' something else, then it wouldn't be Trek any more.
     
  8. Allyn Gibson

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    Russell T. Davies wanted to do a crossover episode, yes. But Enterprise was canceled before any real work was done on it. The episode likely would have gone in the "Boomtown" slot in Who's first season, so we missed out on Eccleston and Bakula chewing scenery together.
     
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    A Doctor who and Enterprise crossover book no thank you.I like Doctor who and Enterprise as seperate tv shows just not as a mashup story.
     
  10. Sandoval

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    Rubbish. That makes no more sense than saying if I dress like someone else I stop being me.
     
  11. MatthiasRussell

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    His comment makes complete sense. The foundations that make up star trek was laid in the early 60s. Not many current sci fi franchises predate it. Sure Star Wars openned the door for its resurrection and showed the profit potential of science fiction but star trek is great the way it is. It is a show about exploration, new possibilities, and helps us gain a different perspective on current issues while showing us mankind can be better than it currently is. Trek does not need to improve or change upon that.
     
  12. Cicero

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    Horatio Hornblower comes to mind immediately; the series is sometimes more Star Trek-like than much of Star Trek. (Watching the ITV series from the turn of the millennium, it's striking how similar Kirk is to Hornblower, and how much Picard resembles Sir Edward Pellew/Admiral Cornwallis.)

    From a science fiction point of view, many elements of Thomas Harlan's short (so far) In the Time of the Sixth Sun series would work well in the Star Trek universe. After the first season of TNG, there was very little of the stumbling across dangerous alien relics which so often characterized TOS (and was famously key to Forbidden Planet), but which Harlan's novels do very well.
     
  13. C.E. Evans

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    I tend to see quite a few people wanting Star Trek to be more like (nu)Battlestar Galactica or any kind of series that deals really only with intergalactic war on a huge scale.
     
  14. MatthiasRussell

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    ^ I see that too. The problem with that is by the end of nu BSG, I was pretty disgusted with humanity. It was dark with many ammoral characters and corrupt politics. Trek should be showing us how much better mankind should be, something to strive for.

    Though I felt VOY needed more darker moments and to seem like a more desperate plight, I liked that the characters for the most part remained good spirited. Mixing trek with BSG would be like following the Equinox crew.
     
  15. Therin of Andor

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    Star Trek. :techman:

    Actually, I was half-expecting ENT to finish with a "Quantum Leap" crossover.

    And the movie "Master and Commander" had a script that woulda made a great ST movie.
     
  16. Allyn Gibson

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    I tell people, in all seriousness, that M&C is the best of the Star Trek films. ;)
     
  17. F. King Daniel

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    Ever since "Parallels", I've always wondered what Sliders Trek would be like.

    But whatever, it has to retain Trek's core values. Even in it's darkest times, Trek never lost those.
     
  18. xortex

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    I personally don't see why A.C. Clarke's 2001 Space Odessy can't be turned into Trek. With maybe more of a localized phenominon, a psuedo war, alternate reality mystery etc. David Bowman works for Star Fleet. The origins have to be unravelled more with a stand alone concept within a concept more firmly grounded in reality and Earth, etc. That would be the type of crossover merger I would like to see. A contained story line that people can follow week to week like what's going on this week with that problem and/or character.
     
  19. Relayer1

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    Galactica was great, but although there are elements that could be grafted onto Trek, the war thing has been done rather well in DS9. Trek shouldn't become too focused on war - it is, after all, a failure of the alternatives.

    I loved DS9 - more so than any other Trek, but dark as it was at times, I would have liked it even grittier. To appear at all relevant or current in 2011 a new Trek show would have to be harder edged whilst retaining its identity as Star Trek.
     
  20. Christopher

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    "Gritty" has been done to death lately. Surely a new Trek series would stand out from the pack more if it were optimistic. The desire to build a better future, rather than just whining about how rotten everything is, is certainly "relevant" in this age of the Arab Spring and Occupy Wall Street, not to mention the yearning for change that the Obama campaign tapped into (regardless of how well or poorly the administration has lived up to that promise). Heck, even the Tea Party is trying to fight for a better world by their own definitions, I guess. There are signs that we're entering an activist era not unlike the 1960s, an era defined by a young generation motivated to strive for change and improvement (however they may define that). So maybe the '60s-era mentality of the original Star Trek is more relevant for the years ahead than the bitter cynicism of the '00s-era Galactica.