If Star Trek Beyond fails

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Dales, Jul 24, 2015.

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  1. Dales

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    First of all. I am not hoping this film DOES NOT fail. I really want this film to do great and save me from the comic book film fatigue but Heavens for bid, If this film fails or bombs at the box office do you think they will go ahead with star trek 4 since the actors are already signed up for it or they would just reboot like Spiderman.
     
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  2. Khan 2.0

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    But it won't bomb as its the 50th
     
  3. Dales

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    I do not think it will bomb too, we never know but 90% chance that it wont bomb. Also seeing how Jurassic park and furious 7 made so much money people make be looking for better alternatives to the 5 comics films coming out in the spring summer period alone and star trek beyond will be just what people need.:techman:
     
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    I like your optimism! I'm really looking forward to it and can't see it bombing either.
     
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    Scotty being crestfallen makes me sad. :lol:
     
  7. Campe

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    If it fails, there'll be no fourth movie. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. Mine is that there will be a 5-10 year gap before they try to reboot again. Whether that's on TV or film is the question.
     
  8. Dales

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    Cheer up scotty. it was a typo.
     
  9. Serveaux

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    A real bomb would mean the end of it for quite a while.
     
  10. Hythlodeus

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    1.) We're living in the Golden Age of comic book movies - there is no fatigue. There was no Western fatigue during the Golden Age of Western either. If you feel fatigued you maybe watched to many bad ones? Limit yourself to the good movies, forget the rest.
    2.) It's Spider-Man. The hyphen is important.
    3.) If the movie bombs, I guess Paramount will let this franchise die and resurrect it sometimes when the nostalgia factor is big enough to warant a reboot again
     
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    It depends on the context.

    Nemesis failed financially (Budget: $60 million, box office: $67,312,826).

    Star Trek Into Darkness had a good box office, but with box below what they expected (at least $500 million).

    And again, they expect more from upcoming movie (compared with Marvel movies).
     
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    I would assume that Star Trek Beyond is a lower budget (not low budget) film than Star Trek Into Darkness was. They would likely not throw more money at a sequel when the previous entry underperformed. Plus, filming in Canada gives some tax breaks and incentives that were not available to the production in Los Angeles.

    So while there may be expectations in the same realm of Trek 2009 and Into Darkness, I think they may be a little tempered based on the returns of the latest entry.
     
  13. Serveaux

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    I wouldn't bet that the budget will come in lower than STID.
     
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    As Canada gives some tax breaks and incentives, they can have the same STID budget (or slightly less) with better production.

    It is obvious that everything is relative. This also depends on script, cast, director. We could have a highquality movie with low-budget or vice-versa.
     
  15. The Wormhole

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    Beyond's failure will mean the end of Bad Robot's reign of tyranny and a return to Prime Universe Purity.

    Well, someone was going to say it.
     
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    I don't think the next film will be a failure, in my view, although I'm not an expert, the first two movies have been outstanding and I'm really hoping the next two will be equally good. If it fails they won't make any more, obviously. Then perhaps in a few years we might get a new TV series.
     
  17. BillJ

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    They'll put the franchise on the shelf for five to ten years then likely give it a hard reboot when it comes back.
     
  18. Dukhat

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    I'm assuming you're being facetious here, but just in case you're not: Even if Beyond fails, the prime universe will still remain dead. It's far more likely that someone else will eventually reboot Trek yet again in a whole new universe rather than being hog-tied back to the Prime one.
     
  19. Campe

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    :techman:
     
  20. Sector 7

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    With Simon Pegg writing STB, I don't see it failing. That said, if it does ST is doomed to being placed on the back shelf at Paramount. The rights would then revert to CBS once again. The alternative is for Paramount to retain the rights by doing a complete reboot which may not look anything remotely like the "purists" vision. Heads will explode! "Dogs and cats living together..."
     
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