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November 12 2008, 02:12 AM
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Rear Admiral
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More 'Star Trek XI' Details
More information has emerged about Star Trek XI as those who were privileged to see the twenty-minute preview share their knowledge of the film's events. As reported by Den of Geek!, a fourth scene of the movie concerns an attempt by Kirk, Sulu and "red-shirt Olson" to stop a Romulan drill from causing a singularity which will engulf Vulcan. Meanwhile, Spock gives Chekov the helm and beams down to Vulcan to save the Vulcan Senate and his parents. He has also given orders to evacuate the planet in the few minutes remaining until it is swallowed up by the singularity. Meanwhile, TrekMovie has some updates courtesy of a reader who saw the Star Trek XI preview. In the first "bar fight" scene: Uhura was in a red/orange cadet uniform and Kirk was in civilian clothes; Pike urges Kirk to join Starfleet and tells him that he could spend four years in training and have a ship in eight years; Pike mentions Kirk's father, who was lost on the USS Kelvin, but who saved many lives in the short time he was in command. In the second scene, where McCoy uses trickery to get Kirk aboard the Enterprise: Kirk flirts with a nurse in Sickbay; Kirk goes to Pike to warn him about the "lightning" at Vulcan saying that it is related to the loss of the USS Kelvin and involvement of the Romulans; Uhura is told to man communications because she alone speaks "all three dialects of Romulan;" Chekov has trouble with his voice ID due to his inability to pronounce "Victor," properly. In the third scene, where Kirk meets both Scotty and elder Spock: they appear to be on the "frozen planet;" Scotty explains that his experimental beaming worked on fruit but "didn't turn out so well for Admiral Archer's beagle;" and in a scene reminiscent of Star Trek: The Voyager Home, Scotty is given his own equation from the future. TrekMovie also reports that in the fourth scene that: Romulans are much more aggressive than original series or Star Trek: The Next Generation Romulans; Pike leaves Spock in command to go to the Romulan drilling rig with Kirk, Sulu and Olsen; Sulu and a Romulan have a fight scene. Popwatch Blog has a picture of the new Enterprise, almost halfway down the page. To read more, head to the articles located here and here. More descriptions of Star Trek XI can be found here, here.
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November 12 2008, 03:52 AM
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Fleet Admiral
Location: Section 203, Yankee Stadium
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
TrekToday wrote:

Scotty explains that his experimental beaming worked on fruit but "didn't turn out so well for Admiral Archer's beagle;"
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Oh man. Poor Porthos....
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November 12 2008, 04:46 AM
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Romulan Curmudgeon
Location: T'Bonz's 2009 Carved Pumpkin
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Well that sucks. Mean Abrams!
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November 12 2008, 05:50 AM
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Chief of Staff, Starfleet Command
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
I thought the Romulans had been out of touch with the Federation for a century before "Balance of Terror." Given the whole business about never having seen the face of the enemy, I feel weird about that being put aside.
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November 12 2008, 07:10 AM
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Admiral
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
I like the Enterprise, but I'm losing faith in the film. I'll admit it I'm worried.
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November 12 2008, 09:03 AM
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Fleet Captain
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Poor Porthos indeed. I was hoping a tip of the hat to Enterprise would be something more cheery, like Trip wasn't dead or whatever. Is that asking so much?
Still, all three dialects of Romulan. That's intriguing. I'm started to get stoked!! Bar fights! Nimoy-Spock. Uhura's panties.
 We could have been watching this movie NOW!
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November 12 2008, 10:26 AM
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Admiral
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Uhhh... how old would Archer be within Scotty's Starfleet career?
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November 12 2008, 11:24 AM
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
God, that's one ugly Enterprise. Looks like the TOS Enterprise and the Phase II Enterprise had a retarded child.
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November 12 2008, 12:56 PM
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Lieutenant Junior Grade
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Aragorn wrote:

Uhhh... how old would Archer be within Scotty's Starfleet career?
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Uhm, a better question would be "how old would Porthos be?"
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November 12 2008, 03:00 PM
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Commodore
Location: Jim Thorpe, PA, USA
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
GulDucati wrote:

Aragorn wrote:

Uhhh... how old would Archer be within Scotty's Starfleet career?
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Uhm, a better question would be "how old would Porthos be?"
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Ok let me try to figure this out:
Porthos was seen in "First Flight" while Archer was piloting in the NX Project. So at the very latest, Jon recieved him in 2143. The average Beagle lives 10-15 years. Porthos is still around during 2161 scenes in "TATV" making the dog 19 years old. Granted life spans are extended in the future (i.e. McCoy in "Farpoint"), so I guess that could include dogs too. But to say that Porthos was still around in Scotty's day, nearly a century later would be ludicous! Heck, Archer wouldn't have been around either: he would have been about 153 years old!
We would have to assume that this beaming technique wasn't first attempted by Scotty. If we cautiously use the bio points on Archer barely glimpsed in "In the Mirror Darkly" he retired as Capain in 2161, became Ambassador to Andoria in 2169, serves as Federation Councilor in 2175 and finally becomes Federation President in 2184 until stepping down in 2192. I would assume (and hope) that the unfortunate incident with Porthos occured in 2161 or (very) shortly thereafter.
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November 12 2008, 07:02 PM
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Lieutenant Junior Grade
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
well, im not to crazy about the spoilers... as for porthos. whos to say that animal cloning isnt banned like human cloning? :P or maybe Porthos is the reason the Trek timeline is all messed up. hes been hoping around peeing on trees.
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November 12 2008, 07:42 PM
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Romulan Curmudgeon
Location: T'Bonz's 2009 Carved Pumpkin
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Or maybe, Archer got another beagle after Porthos died and it is to this beagle that they are referring.
Sometimes the right answer is the easiest answer.
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November 12 2008, 07:43 PM
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Fleet Captain
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Y'know, the Admiral might just have had more than one beagle.
Just sayin'.
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November 12 2008, 08:30 PM
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Lieutenant Junior Grade
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
t'Bonz .. Intrepid...thats just crazy talk. psh!
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November 12 2008, 08:54 PM
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Commodore
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Yeah, but wouldn't Archer be long dead by the time Scotty starts his experiments? He was 40-ish when the NX-01 launched and this movie supposedly takes place about 100 years later, so how does that work?
Well, maybe something weird happened to Archer and Porthos, simirlarly to what happened to Garth Of Izar or the Methusaleh guy and they became immortal or something. It does look like Archer to get really angry at Scotty for killing his dog and making him serve on an ice planet.
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November 12 2008, 09:18 PM
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Lieutenant Junior Grade
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Okay, maybe it's another Archer altogether who happened to have a beagle, thereby making the whole reference meaningless.
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November 12 2008, 11:54 PM
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Vice Admiral
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Count Zero wrote:

Yeah, but wouldn't Archer be long dead by the time Scotty starts his experiments? He was 40-ish when the NX-01 launched and this movie supposedly takes place about 100 years later, so how does that work?
Well, maybe something weird happened to Archer and Porthos, simirlarly to what happened to Garth Of Izar or the Methusaleh guy and they became immortal or something. It does look like Archer to get really angry at Scotty for killing his dog and making him serve on an ice planet. 
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I thought Archer's bio in "In A Mirror Darkly" said that he died the day after seeing the TOS Enterprise launch in 2245.
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November 13 2008, 12:05 AM
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Fleet Captain
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Perhaps in this rebooted version of Star Trek, humans live much longer. Which would be more realistic.
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November 13 2008, 02:34 PM
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Rear Admiral
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
I've been optimistic about this movie so far, but some of these details sound a bit...lame. Namely Uhura's "sex with farm animals" remark and Kirk's hands and tongue swelling up comically.
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November 13 2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: More 'Star Trek XI' Details
Cicero wrote:

Count Zero wrote:

Yeah, but wouldn't Archer be long dead by the time Scotty starts his experiments? He was 40-ish when the NX-01 launched and this movie supposedly takes place about 100 years later, so how does that work?
Well, maybe something weird happened to Archer and Porthos, simirlarly to what happened to Garth Of Izar or the Methusaleh guy and they became immortal or something. It does look like Archer to get really angry at Scotty for killing his dog and making him serve on an ice planet. 
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I thought Archer's bio in "In A Mirror Darkly" said that he died the day after seeing the TOS Enterprise launch in 2245.
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That's true, but this line wasn't even seen on screen and the writers themselves said they wouldn't consider it canon because it was rather hastily written up. Besides, in the new movie the Enterprise doesn't seem to be as old as in the original canon.
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