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October 3 2008, 05:29 AM
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Rear Admiral
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Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Doing their best to make sure the story fits with previous Star Trek canon, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman sought to establish the history of both the Enterprise and its crew. As reported by Wired, Star Trek XI is about beginnings. "It's about how the original crew came together, which was never covered in its entirety by either the show or any of the movies," said Orci. "No one has ever told the story of how the Enterprise set sail." Even though there was established canon, there was plenty of room where stories could be written about the characters and their pasts. "There are details in canon where the characters refer to their past," said Kurtzman, "but there are wide areas of interpretations and sort of blank spots where you go, 'Wait, I understand this, but how did they get from here to there before they got to that point?' And that's where you have some room." At times, Star Trek needed a bit more, in the opinion of the Star Trek XI writers. "I want to feel the space, I want to feel speed and I want to feel all the things that can become a little bit lost when 'Star Trek' becomes very stately," said Orci. "which I love about it , but...." "We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman. "'Star Trek' is often the space equivalent of sub battles, which is what makes it unique and different from 'Star Wars,' so you can't blow that away, either." "It's somewhere between that the truth lies," said Orci. Orci admits that fans may find issues with Star Trek XI. " There's going to be a debate when this movie comes out whether or not it's consistent with canon," he said. "We argue that it is. But there's literally nothing we can say about this movie. Even if we think it's not controversial, people will say, 'Oh, that's convenient, they're covering a story that's never been covered before instead of dealing with canon.'" To read more, head to the article located here.
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October 3 2008, 06:18 AM
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Rear Admiral
Location: MI6 - Pegasus Branch
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
THATS IT!!! I'M BOYCOTTING THIS MOVIEEEEE!!!1!111!!!
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October 3 2008, 06:56 AM
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Rear Admiral
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Can't wait to see this film
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October 3 2008, 01:24 PM
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Rear Admiral
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman.
Uh oh.
*Ducks before the rabid old school fans come through and stampede the place*
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October 3 2008, 02:07 PM
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Doin' Bad Things With You
Location: Huntington Beach, California
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
So is that why they never say anything new in these interviews, because they dropped all the new hints on the way there?
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October 3 2008, 02:11 PM
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Commander
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
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"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman.
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Kirk: "Spock ... I am your ... father."
Spock: "No! That's impossible!"
Kirk: "Search your ... FEELINGS. You know it ... to be true. Join me ... and we can ... RULE ... the Federation as father ... and son!"
Spock: "I'll never join you!"
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October 3 2008, 02:35 PM
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Fleet Captain
Location: In Development Hell
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Tulin wrote:

"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman.
Uh oh.
*Ducks before the rabid old school fans come through and stampede the place*
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I'm going to take that to mean this movie needs more "action" battle scenes than previous Trek (think E-E slowly.....moving.....closer.....to.....Scmitar(?-Shinzon's ship)....to.....crash.....into.....it.....zzzzzzzz zzzzz
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October 3 2008, 02:55 PM
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Rear Admiral
Location: Saul. Tokyo, Japan
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
MEZA JAR JAR BINKS! WHOSA IS YOUSA??!!
But I'm all for big epic space battles, just don't want to see a giant starship moving around like a fly since Abrams did want this to be realistic...
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October 3 2008, 02:57 PM
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Rear Admiral
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Yeah, as long as they keep the "star wars" limited to more action and special effects then great. If they start taking their story cues from lucas, on the other hand...Star Trek really is fucked.
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October 3 2008, 04:22 PM
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Fleet Captain
Location: Sadly, not in Texas
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
yeah I am pretty sure he is talking about fast paced space battles that don't keep us constantly updated on shield strength status.
But I doubt there will be the big fleet battles of star wars. I have a hard time imagining that there are more than a few ships involved.
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October 3 2008, 05:29 PM
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The Doctor
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
TrekToday wrote:

Orci admits that fans may find issues with Star Trek XI. " There's going to be a debate when this movie comes out whether or not it's consistent with canon," he said. "We argue that it is. But there's literally nothing we can say about this movie. Even if we think it's not controversial, people will say, 'Oh, that's convenient, they're covering a story that's never been covered before instead of dealing with canon.'"
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Orci knows fans only too well.
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"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff."
"This is my timey-wimey detector. Goes ding when there's stuff."
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October 3 2008, 05:30 PM
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Captain
Location: The European Union
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Chekov: "Keptin, a wessel is de-cloaking dead ahead. A Klingon Imperial Star Destroyer."
Scotty: "Och, tiss a trap!"
Sulu: "Oh my! We're doomed!"
Spock: "Scanning their weapons. It seems the force is strong with this one."
McCoy: "Dammit! I find your lack of emotion... disturbing."
Uhura: "Captain...I-I...love you."
Kirk: "I know."
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October 3 2008, 08:14 PM
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Fleet Admiral
Location: still not cancelled!
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
DorkBoy [TM] wrote:

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"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman.
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Kirk: "Spock ... I am your ... father."
Spock: "No! That's impossible!"
Kirk: "Search your ... FEELINGS. You know it ... to be true. Join me ... and we can ... RULE ... the Federation as father ... and son!"
Spock: "I'll never join you!"
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Well that would give the fanfic writers something new to talk about.
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October 3 2008, 08:16 PM
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Fleet Captain
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Another filler, non-story . . . ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
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October 4 2008, 07:16 AM
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Fleet Captain
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
TrekToday wrote:

"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman. "
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Fuck.
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October 4 2008, 11:07 AM
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Rear Admiral
Location: MI6 - Pegasus Branch
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Tyson wrote:

TrekToday wrote:

"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman. "
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Fuck...
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...ing rights!
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October 4 2008, 01:27 PM
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Vice Admiral
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Saul's Eye wrote:

But I'm all for big epic space battles, just don't want to see a giant starship moving around like a fly since Abrams did want this to be realistic...
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Same here. I have to admit the Star Wars reference bothers me just a bit, but as I've said all along, I'm willing to withhold judgement on this until we see the whole thing unveiled (or at least until I see the trailer!)
Up to this point, everything I've read, and what little we've seen, has been encouraging.
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October 5 2008, 12:46 AM
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Captain
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Live I've said before, given that this thing seems to take place in about a dozen different time periods, it's only a matter of time before we hear about a pre-adolescent Kirk winning pod races through the cornfields of Iowa.
And, we'll finally learn that Kobayashi Maru was really a kangaroo looking alien with a big tongue.
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October 5 2008, 01:27 AM
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Vice Admiral
Location: State of Ohio, United States of America
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
Photoman15 wrote:

Tulin wrote:

"We have to bring more 'Star Wars' into 'Star Trek," said Kurtzman.
Uh oh.
*Ducks before the rabid old school fans come through and stampede the place*
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I'm going to take that to mean this movie needs more "action" battle scenes than previous Trek (think E-E slowly.....moving.....closer.....to.....Scmitar(?-Shinzon's ship)....to.....crash.....into.....it.....zzzzzzzz zzzzz
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I think that from the context, it's pretty clear that what they mean is that they want to bring a sense of the Enterprise as a space vessel rather than as very, very comfortable, seemingly-stationary place, to the film. They want to create a feeling of the ship as a ship, not a sense of the ship as a hotel. They want to make it feel less comfortable.
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October 5 2008, 03:21 AM
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Vice Admiral
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Re: Kurtzman And Orci Drop New 'Star Trek XI' Hints
^
Saying it's more like Star Wars makes me feel less comfortable.
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